What happens after the oil is gone?

fearandloathing writes:... I live in a city of about 50,000, we have no public transit other than taxi. There is a system for the elderly...ect, but no bus. Public transit is a joke for most Americans This is one of many problems we face in USA..

fearandloathing writes:I am not sure what you mean?? Please clarify, dont forget I am often slow.

crashfrog writes:Nobody lives in the "back woods", Coyote. Despite the lionization of "rural America", less than 20% of Americans have actually chosen to live there, what with the drug problems, rampant unemployment, terrible provision of public services, awful schools, and unavailability of culture.

The "real world" is in the cities, Coyote, and it's you "rural Americans" who don't know anything about them.

jar writes:This is the change I was discussing.For example, he is talking about hauling a three horse trailer into the wilderness.The answer is to have vehicles capable of that available on a per use charge basis.

jar writes:The key is that you are going to change, one way or another.The goal is to find ways to minimize the pain of change.

You'll be able to rent a 4x4 if needed.

frako writes:As long as the road isnt too rough my passat 1,9 TDI could do it with ease (has done it) 105 hp but tones of torque diesel baby and if my math is correct 42 miles per gallon.

jar writes:Change is coming.Get used to it.

fearandloathing writes:No one is saying you have to give up your car or truck, I know I wont either.What is being said is that public transit could help reduce our use of fossil fuels.

Rahvin writes:It's self-correcting, Coyote. Oil will become less and less available. Lower supply with continually growing demand simply means higher prices, until you can't afford to fuel that truck any more. That's not a "liberal agenda," it has nothing to do with government regulation, it's a simple fact that there is a finite supply of natural hydrocarbons and we are blowing through it at a rate far faster than it could ever be replenished.That's why increasing pressure to develop alternatives to gasoline and diesel are needed - we need to develop those alternatives before we can no longer afford to drive our current vehicles.If an electric/hybrid/Hydrogen/whatever truck were developed with equal hauling power to your existing truck, would you drive it, all else being equal?

crashfrog writes:Who the fuck gives a shit about horses, Coyote? That's nothing more than one of your rural America elitist affectations. Do you think the average American knows shit-all about horses?Man, how out of touch with the average American can you get?(Also - what, are your horses just lazy? If it's so important for them to get up a hill, let them out to walk.)

jar writes:So far you are the only one talking about mandates.Change though is coming whether YOU like it or not.

Theodoric writes:There are a lot of us liberals in the heartland.