Creationism, Evolution and the Public Schools

I agree completely with outlawing religion. It claims to be a force for good whilst carrying out some of the most unspeakable acts the human race has ever known.The main reason I am an atheist is because the god you claim exists would not tolerate the things done in his name. How can an almighty allseing allknowing deity stand idly by whilst religions worldwide and throughout history torture maim and kill in the name of "morality".

You outlaw religion by declaring it to be an act of bigotry (like racism,sexism homophobia) religions by their very nature are "holier than thou" suffer not an unbeliever. Then simply use existing equal oportunities law to prosecute offenders.Heavy fines should suffice.If we were feeling intolerant we could always follow the example of the christian church and burn transgressors to death, confiscate their property, murder their families and invade countries that refuse to comply.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-07-2002]

I notice ten-shite that you are trying to bog us down in pointless ranting over the grammar and wording of a hypothetical legal definition, whilst blatently ignoring the moral questions behind my belief in the creation of one. Are you afraid to deal with moral questions due to your unspoken knowledge that any religious moral high ground (buddism may be the only exception) is soaked in the blood of innocents (read infidel/unbeliever if you are religious.

Rather than inventing new legistlation simply add sects/churches/temples whichever to the existing list of illegal terrorist organisations. Freeze financial assets, imprison personel. If its ok to do it to muslim fundamentalists why not christian fundamentalists. Am I detecting a hint of religious bigotry in the running of american foreign policy?, surely not.

Christian fundamentalists protestant or catholic kill hundreds a year in northern ireland/mainland england. I see no difference between them and muslim terrorists, except that christian terrorists are not willing to die limiting their ability to carry out suicide attacks.And as a citizen of the UK, I thank you, as a citizen of the US, for funding the IRA for the last thirty years.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-07-2002]

We have always treated the Irish better than you treat north american indians. The US has never in its history honoured a treaty with the amerindians.As for a united ireland churchill offered it in return for a pledge of neutrality in WW2. The Irish gave the pledge then used their ports as refuelling stations for the Nazi wolfpack submarine squadrons. Which incidentaly sank a shit load of american/british and canadian ships. The reason a presence is maintained is similar to your presence in guantanamo bay and grenada (for a bit anyway) an enemy on your doorstep needs watching.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-07-2002]

Much appreciated. And I thank you for your exemplary subjugation of a people who don't want anything to do with your government.[This message has been edited by gene90, 12-07-2002][/B][/QUOTE]Maybe we should use american subjugation techniques and send smallpox infected blankets to ireland.

The only country in the world ever to use nuclear weapons (against a country that was trying to surrender at the time) is spouting morality again. Wow I'm convinced.When will you give new york back to the huron. Or are they all dead?.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-07-2002]

Why dont we start a forum to find out who thinks saddam hussain is more dangerous than george bush?. Have you noticed that iraq is currently complying with UN resolutions, if they comply how are you going to justify toppling him?. By breaking a treaty I imagine.You've forgotten the usual "but we did'nt know that nuke's were radio-active" propaganda.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-07-2002]

You can have the lot of them they are all just welfare pits after all. Why do you think the brit government got into peace talks with IRA. The south dont want to pick up the tab either.What reparations have you paid japan.You know how vietnam was fought almost exclusively by afro carribean soldiers, and the gulf war by hispanics, who are you sending to iraq this time round?.Where did you get the idea that cornwall wants autonomy?, I knew americans were ignorant of world affairs that dont involve either arms sales or oil, but i did'nt realize it was that bad.Yorkshire wants autonomy, do you know where that is?.Whilst passing through US customs once I showed my UK issued EU passport to the obese moron in uniform who was convinced EU means german. That could explain why it is so easy for terrorists to infiltrate your country. Your geographical ineptitude could also be the reason you keep shooting your own side. The only brit casualties in "Oil war one" were due to incompetant yank A10 pilots.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-07-2002]

Gene90You support christian terrorismYou condemn muslim terrorismYou support Israel who ignore UN sanctionsYou condemn Iraq who (currently) comply with UN sanctionsWhen do you plan on toppling Ariel Sharons dangerous regime.

What do you mean bail us out again?, you did'nt dare enter WW2 untill the brits sank the german navy, shot down the german air force and the russians broke the back of their land forces. Dont believe hollywood history.At least the italians joined a side straight away instead of waiting to see who was winning.If george bush decides to annexe poland will you still support him?.Didnt Al-Qaeda start out as american funded freedom fighters?.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-08-2002]

You've only mentioned U-boats I notice (everything else was sunk). Dunkirk happened before the russians turned the german tide. You lost vietnam because your soldiers are crap, you have a lot of planes and tanks but they are no use in jungle where the vietcong hunted fat sweating rednecks who were too unfit and unprofesional to put up a fight. The reason the gulf war stopped short of an invasion of Bagdad was because your government knew you would take massive casualties in house to house fighting (I repeat your troops are the worst in the world) and your civilian population go all wobbly at casualties. You cannot use air power or armour in a densely populated city, infantry only, that means you can either slaughter the civilian populace (as you did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki) or once again its open season on the overwieght redneck forces of highly questionable freedom.And stop using my language invent your own you smelly little colonial.So the mujahadeen were the american funded terrorists, thanks for clarifying that.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-08-2002]

The enigma machine has often been hailed as the item that turned WW2 two were captured during the war, both by the british.Hollywood history strikes again. The american navy did capture a three cylinder encoder (an early and simple version of enigma) but unfortunatly not untill three months after the code was broken by the british.When is disney doing a crucifiction cartoon?.

You know what they say, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. The destruction of the world trade towers was a good thing hopefully it will teach you people not to fund and support terrorism.In answer to your allegation of me being wobbly at the thought of war I was in the gulf war and also saw active service in Northern Ireland.
It was during the gulf war that I watched first hand as your fat troops bitched about the late beer heli-lift. Incidentally it was the beer heli-lifts that we used to locate american positions on exercise. A trick the viet cong used.[This message has been edited by Metatron, 12-09-2002]