answersingenitals writes:
What I am trying to do in this thread is to address all those people and arguments (and they are legion) that are convinced that god's existence is logically inescapable and that the agnostic and atheistic position can only be held by disregarding the compelling force of logic. In my OP, I propose to do this with a single, simple overarching argument (rather than arguing each 'proof' individually) that shows that all such arguments are necessarily invalid. It is this argument and position that I wish to see debated in this thread.
I believe that my argument is valid. But I may be wrong. It's happened before. Well, okay, it's never happened before; I was just trying to show a little humility. But the discussion might be interesting.
Well it all is quite interesting, really. I am not that well versed in logical arguments, but hanging around fundamentalists and charismatics will
do that to you! ;
I used to discuss this basic type of question with Jar. He convinced me that regardless of how much I argued otherwise, there was no real way to
prove that God existed.
I won't attempt to logically prove God except to say that if the premise is that God was, is, and always will be, He(She,It) was before time and will be after time.