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Author Topic:   God's existence cannot be proven logically!
pbee
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Message 49 of 57 (413217)
07-29-2007 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by purpledawn
05-16-2007 6:58 AM


Re: Syllogisms
quote:
Yahweh was a tribal god
It depends on which interpretation of Yahweh we are referencing I suppose.
The Bible indicates that Yahweh held an intimate association with the Israelites. However this alone does not classify him as a tribal god as some would put it. The question was once raised asking whether God was an exclusive God of the Jews and Paul responded in saying "Is he not also of people of the nations?" The answer was "Yes, of people and of the nations also.”
Furthermore, the Israelites did not choose Yahweh as their God, rather, He chose them to accomplish his purpose. A tribal god’s destiny is bound up with that of its people. When the tribe is vanquished, the god too suffers defeat. This has not been the case with God.
It has also been criticized that Yahweh was a bloodthirsty tribal god of the Jews. To justify such a title, presumptuous critics cite Gods ousting of the Canaanites from their land in order to give it to the Jews. However, the records clearly show that Canaanites were removed because they polluted the land by their gross immorality”their adultery, homosexuality, and their shedding of the blood of babies. If Israel copies this Canaanite religion of Baal worship, it will also be cast out.

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pbee
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Message 50 of 57 (413218)
07-29-2007 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by AnswersInGenitals
05-13-2007 7:24 PM


My take on this is that God the entity exists in a realm where time and space is not a factor. It was written long ago that this was his position regarding mankind. I myself have always found it quite simple to rationalize eternity, we simply follow the trail to the root and regardless of our beliefs we end up transcending time and space.
I have to say though, I think it's intriguing that someone would describe God with genre(he/she). As an absolute power(God) in every aspect would have no such attributes, otherwise he would not be absolute. Also, since God would have created gender, as a human characteristic which he would hold absolute authority over. It is notable however, that for the purpose of headship and authority, God often presented himself as a father or as a masculine presence. - Additionally the account of Angels coming to earth was described as the sons of God lusting for the women of the earth.

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pbee
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Message 52 of 57 (413286)
07-30-2007 9:16 AM
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07-30-2007 7:17 AM


Re: Syllogisms
The tribal God response loosely addressed Message 12 of 51
quote:
Since this thread is about using logical arguments, continuing the position you present would be off topic.
I agree. Which is precisely why I added message 50 of 51. Nevertheless, I see no problems leaving things exactly where they are.

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