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God must exist outside of time. Otherwise, s/he would be constrained by time and could only act in a time sequenced manor. This would make god subservient to time and time itself a power higher than god. Thus, god, by definition the highest existing power, must be above, outside of, and independent of time.
Therefore, logical arguments and logic itself simply do not have the power or purview to prove the existence of god or anything about god.
Hmmmn... I'm not sure I agree with you.
The problem you have (if I am right?) is that you believe imperative statements about God to be invalid. By imperative statement, I mean a statement of the form
if X then (it is required that) Y. You seem to mean that if we put God in the place of
X then we are placent requirements on God, and that is not possible because God is by definition not subject to any requirements. I know this is far from how you have formulated it - you have talked about time, but I don't really see the relevance of
time to your argument as opposed to any other kind of
necessity. It is the imposition of logical necessity that is the problem, since God is presumably not constrained by necessity.
Well, one problem I have with this general view is that we end up not being able to make
any statement about God. We cannot define God as "the entity greater than which no entity can be conceived" because that statement puts an imperative requirement on God to be the greatest thing, and we cannot make simple statements like "God exists" or "God doesn't exist" because likewise they are imperative statements. God doesn't have to exist, if he doesn't want to!
We cannot even say "God might exist" because we are implicitly saying that "It is a necessary attribute of God that he either exists or he doesn't exist".
If my interpretation of your view on the relationship between God and logic is correct, it would seem to prevent us from saying anything about God at all! (Blessed be the day when that happens...). But I do find that an unsatisfying result, even if it is the correct one.
Mick
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