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Author Topic:   Why Would a Loving God Create Hell?
Intellect
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Message 40 of 196 (66490)
11-14-2003 1:06 PM


Does Satan work for God? If God is all powerful, then Satan can not do anything without the approval of God correct? Look what happened to Job for instance. Satan tells God that the only reason Job is so thankful and such a firm believer is because God rewards him for everything. So God says, he will Allow Satan control over Job's life, except you can not kill Job. Satan kills his whole family, and when job asks why, God says not to question him.
What a great loving God that is...
Although he does get a new family in the end, what of the previous one? Loving God?

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Intellect
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Message 52 of 196 (66602)
11-15-2003 2:28 AM


on the subject of Universal Absolutes. I would have to say there is a basis for them, but, in the end "absolutes" are determined by culture. Since we are people, of all things, we think people are the most important things in the universe. Therefore, what do people need? Well, eat, sleep, drink, propogate species. So to make sure this happens, there are certain rules we need to set, like no mass murder. That's why when most people think of murder they think of it as a "universal absolute." We can not propogate our species if everyone is dead. But you never know if it will be ok, in some culture somewhere in the world... so it isn't actually universal. Another thing is, what if there is something we know nothing of, that is vastly superior to us on some planet somewhere in the universe? Do we still set the "universal absolutes?" It could functions in ways that we don't even begin to understand. No I am not saying there is a God, because as far as the eye can see, there are just many people trying to sell differentiated goods all around. But if we don't know what there is out there in the universe, how can we have a universal absolute? It's more like "human absolutes" and since there are so many cultures, some that even repress basic human needs (sexuality/US) how are there any universal absolutes? It just gets fuzzier as the logic process gets away from basic human needs.

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