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coffee_addict

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Message 10 of 271 (141903)
09-12-2004 8:43 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by Trump won
09-11-2004 4:00 PM

You tell me. During the Middle Ages, it was good to people to burn other people that didn't agree with their theology. Then the reformation came, and it was good for some people to establish new theologies where they could burn those that tried to burn them in the first place. Then came the New World and it was good for some people to own other people. Then came the 20th century and it was good for some people discriminate against others. Then came today when it is still good for some people to discriminate others and actually come up with constitutional amendments to show how good it is to discriminate certain people.

So, you tell me what good or evil is.

The Laminator

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Message 28 of 271 (142227)
09-13-2004 10:29 PM

Reply to: Message 27 by joshua221
09-13-2004 10:23 PM

The question is how do you know?

Added by edit: have you checked every animal on Earth that's ever lived?

This message has been edited by Darth Mal, 09-13-2004 09:30 PM

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Message 53 of 271 (142657)
09-16-2004 4:15 AM

Reply to: Message 51 by Rrhain
09-16-2004 3:02 AM

Rrhain writes:

If humans aren't animals, what are they?

I've been waiting for him to answer this very straight foward question, too. Unfortunately, he's been avoiding it for the last two pages, and I doubt that he's going to step out of his bubble and answer the damn question in a straight forward manner anytime soon. It is this kind of childish attitude that have made me hesitant to engage in a dialogue with him.

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For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!

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Message 83 of 271 (143666)
09-21-2004 3:05 PM

Reply to: Message 82 by Phat
09-21-2004 10:50 AM

Phatboy writes:

You are right. According to my belief, there are two basic perspectives in life. Egocentric, and Theocentric. If my belief says that all wisdom and truth originate from me, I can pretty much get away with doing whatever I want and declaring that no evil exists. If, on the other hand, I acknowledge a Supreme Being who by definition is the source...not only according to my perspective but everyone elses irregardless of their opinions--than evil is defined as rebellion to this authority. The relativists will challenge my definition of God as an extension of my egocentrism...and what can I say? Theists have always been accused of using religion to justify authority. We would claim the authority that we are justifying as God, The relativists would contend that we are using God as an excuse to exercise our own authority. This is a debate with no formal solution.

I strongly recommend taking a course in philosophy of ethics. If my ethics professor were standing next to you, he'd grab you by the throat and yell into your ear all the moral theories that ever existed until your head begin to ring. That's what he did with us and look what I've become.

But seriously, the world of ethics ain't as simple as you think, dude.

The Laminator

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For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!