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Author Topic:   Is christianity, or religion in general, a belief of convinience?
coffee_addict
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Message 19 of 206 (124472)
07-14-2004 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Yaro
07-12-2004 8:05 PM


Speaking as a former christian zombie, it has been my belief since my "death" that religion is the easie way out for many people. What's more perfect of an argument then to say, "given that god exists, this is the case and that is the case..." There is absolutely no way to falsify a premise, or postulate, like the existence of god.
My death happened almost 5 years ago and I am still angry at what christianity did to my youth. Perhaps a few more years will bring me back to the negotiating table with chritianity.

The Laminator

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coffee_addict
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Message 21 of 206 (124580)
07-14-2004 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by 1.61803
07-14-2004 4:04 PM


Re: The Secret things.
1.61803 writes:
Why fundlementalist refuse to accept that which sciences has revealed is beyond me.
Being a former fundie myself, I can tell you why. They will deny this, like I did. They already had the preconcieved ideas about these things. The only problem that they encountered is that they didn't have anything to support their beliefs, so they turned to the bible and look for anything whatsoever that might be helpful while ignoring the rest of the texts.
What bothers me is that they don't have the guts to admit this. Look at the christians who are racists. I am convinced that the bible did not tell them to be racists even though they claim that the bible supports their belief. I am convinced that they were racists and they only openned up the bible to find whatever they could find to justify their attitude toward non-christian white males.
Anyway, I admit that I'm a bigot (against christian fundies). What I can't stand about christian fundies is that they won't admit it.

The Laminator

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coffee_addict
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Message 25 of 206 (124596)
07-15-2004 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Hangdawg13
07-14-2004 10:35 PM


Re: The Secret things.
Hangdawg13 writes:
I watched a show on the discovery channel about mystery after mystery that science cannot explain, and it was SOOO obvious to me how the hydroplate theory explained them.
This confirms Yaro's explanation in this thread. To be frank, you wanted an easy way out.
People have the misconception that science is suppose to explain everything, and if it can't explain some things then the rest of it is wrong.
Your message there really really sounds like you wanted everything to be handed to you on a silver plate.
Science isn't about finding out truth or to explain everything there is to explain. It is about being objective when approach the problems. No wonder you are so disappointed. You wanted the scientific community to give you truth.
By the way, you just introduced the hydroplate theory as if it has been confirmed. I have seen several creationists done something like this, where they presented ideas in threads like this as if these ideas were confirmed facts even though they've either been debunked in other threads or are so rediculous that noone ever paid attention to. Other people couldn't say anything because it is technically off-topic. So please, spare us the preaching. Actually, why don't you start a new thread on the hydroplate theory?
Let me ask you a simple question. Please be honest. Regarding the various theories that are out there to support creationism, did the people come up with those theories with the purpose of verifying the existence of a creator or did the people look at the evidence, came up with those theories, and then saw that those theories suggested a creator? In other words, is the creator a given or not?

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coffee_addict
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Message 28 of 206 (124608)
07-15-2004 1:21 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by jar
07-15-2004 12:51 AM


Re: Hydroplate theory
jar writes:
No, not yet another hydroplate thread?
I know. This topic has been beaten to death many many times... even more so than homosexuality. Unfortunately, some people are quick to forget just how rediculous we have shown this theory to be in other threads. I guess he mentioned it hoping that noone would say anything about it and that it could deceive newbies.

The Laminator

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coffee_addict
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Message 31 of 206 (124662)
07-15-2004 3:47 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by One_Charred_Wing
07-15-2004 2:37 AM


Re: Only the fanatics
B2P, you sound too nice to be a potential preacher. I really hate to see you turn into a fire breathing preacher, with a southern accent, that preaches nothing but eternal damnation to all who aren't christian white males.
Seriously, please don't ever turn into one of those preachers. I would hate to have to kill you and eat your heart.

The Laminator

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coffee_addict
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From: Indianapolis, IN
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Message 94 of 206 (124902)
07-16-2004 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Hangdawg13
07-15-2004 11:31 PM


Re: To Grandpa Mike
Hangdawg13 writes:
I'm 19 as of 10 days ago...
This answers a lot of questions I had about your... nature.

The Laminator

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