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Author Topic:   Percy is a Deist - Now what's the difference between a deist and an atheist?
Woodsy
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Message 188 of 375 (500458)
02-26-2009 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by RAZD
02-26-2009 8:01 AM


Re: Back to the fundamental definitions and functionality considerations
When there is no way to reach a substantiated conclusion by the scientific method, then one must extrapolate as logically as possible and reasonable within their worldview. From outside, this has the appearance of a coin-toss, where the theist\deists see the coin landing on heads, the atheists see the coin landing on tails, and the agnostics see it landing on edge.
Just to follow on from Stile.
Concerning your extrapolation; if the extrapolation is not based on some kind of evidence, no matter how indirect, if will not be rational.
It seems to me that, if there is any kind of evidence, even if only remotely connected, one can honestly form a provisional opinion, but it should include a notion of uncertainty. The more remote the connection, the higher the uncertainty.
Absolute conviction either way concerning gods seems unjustified, as, at least in public discourse, evidence must be shareable.
I am not convinced by all this talk of world-view. Things are as they are, and that does not change according to people's philosophical notions. Opinions that do not match reality are false, after all.

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Woodsy
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Message 196 of 375 (500539)
02-27-2009 6:16 AM
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02-26-2009 9:43 PM


Re: Why the reluctance to accept the objective reality of world views?
Of course, however, what do we do about opposing opinions that are not contradicted by reality? Is there an absolute answer to who "has it right" between democrat and republican ideologies? Most of the interactions you have with people are not on the basis of scientific knowledge and known objective facts. What you share is a common society and social values that are ... part of your world view by definition.
Yes, sure, there are matters in which an accurate answer does not exist or has not yet been worked out.
I think you have grabbed the wrong end of the stick as far as the current discussion is concerned. There are lots of matters for which an accurate answer exists. The questions of the existence and/or nature of gods surely fall into this category. How is it legitimate to judge those on the basis of pre-existing predilections (world-view) rather than using evidence or reserving judgement until evidence is obtained?

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