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Author Topic:   No Gospel without Law, no Mercy without Wrath
deerbreh
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Message 206 of 301 (239597)
09-01-2005 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Faith
08-27-2005 1:33 PM


Re: What is the Law?
Certainly it's the Ten Commandments, and I also include all the moral Law of Moses in the Pentateuch, excluding the ceremonial and dietary laws which the New Testament treats as fulfilled in Christ.
I think this is a difficult distinction to make. Where do laws on keeping the Sabbath fall - ceremonial or moral? I doubt that you advocate stoning adulturers and disobedient children - wouldn't that fall under moral law? As for the 10 Commandments, do you take photographs or allow photographs to be taken of you - how is that not a graven image or likeness? (The Amish think it is). And what about statues of people or animals, or even crucifixes? Do you attend a church with an American flag in the sanctuary? If you do, is this not a violation of "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"?
My point is we all "pick and choose" about what we are going to take literally in the Bible. For me, I could not be a member of a church that has a flag in the sanctuary because I consider that idolatry. But I have no problem with photographs. Why? Because I think the commandment against graven images was intended to prevent a primitive people from making idols and thus doesn't include photos, etc. I don't intend to worship the photos. On the other hand, I think some Christians in the U.S. have crossed a line and equate American nationalism with Christianity. Thus I draw the line against flags in churches. But clearly I am interpreting and not following all of the commandments literally. So when I do it I am interpreting but when someone I disagree with does it they are "picking and choosing." I think that is the mentality of many Christians.

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deerbreh
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Message 284 of 301 (240323)
09-03-2005 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by Faith
09-01-2005 6:19 PM


Re: What is the Law?
If it describes something as a historical fact, for instance, it is not interpretation to decide it is an allegory instead. That's just plain rewriting the text to suit ourselves.
But of course everyone thinks that it is the other guy who is "rewriting the text." Therein is the rub. Your "historical fact" is my allegory.
This is why biblical interpretation must not be left to the individual, no matter how learned he/she is. Rather it should be done within the context of a community of believers. I don't trust theologins, whether they are professional or amateurs.
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