Buzz writes:
Now that I'm caught up on responses, I've been thinking about this discussion about God, the supernatural and 2ltd relative to the sabbath day, as initiated in Genesis one. Genesis one states that after God finished his work involving six creation days, he rested on the sabbath/7th day. This's interesting, relative to his power. It appears to implicate that God's entropy did, as per 2ltd, increase to the point of having need of a rest day for resustenance to his desired power maintenance. This also seems to indicate that there is an ebb and flow of energy and entropy between God, the creator and his created universe.
Again, this speaks of pantheism. God no more needs to rest than does any Omnipotant Deity.
(Is there any others?)An Omnipotant being cannot "lose" energy. The fact that He rested in the Bible is a good question to ask of a Biblical Literalist. When you tie in the energy exchange as an ebb and flow between Creator and creation, you cross over into pantheism by definition.
pantheism \pan-the-i-zem\ n : a doctrine that equates God with the forces and laws of the universe pantheist \-ist\ n pantheistic \pan-the-is-tik\ adj
God may well have rested as Jesus may well have felt energy leave Him. You of all people should know that God is not a finite and limited source. There is no ebb and flow. There is only flow.
From a monotheistic perspective, that is. If God lost some of His energy when He created the Universe, this would be a pantheistic fact.
If He did not, it would be in line with classic monotheism.
Here is where you suggest that God(or Jesus) may be incorporated within and subject to the natural law:
Buzz writes:
Correct me if mistaken, but aren't energy and heat related? I've read some definitions of the 2nd law where energy is applicable. The unhealty person lacked energy. Power/energy proceeded forth from Jesus, the powerful one and entered into the weak one who lacked energy, effecting a measure of equalibrium of energy. Thus we see the 2nd law satisfied, do we not?
Maybe your belief is different from mine, but if you are a Christian, stick to the absoluteness of your theology. Don't try and explain God through the laws that He created. He is unprovable in all measure of science. He is not subject to some puny law that He made. When He rose from the Dead, He broke numerous natural laws. There is no reason to suggest that He is neatly within a natural explanation.
This message has been edited by Phatboy, 12-13-2004 10:17 AM