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sidelined
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Message 73 of 355 (116216)
06-17-2004 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Cold Foreign Object
05-13-2004 5:54 PM


Willowtree
The source of this inch, is the axis of the earth. 1/500,000,000th part of the earth's axis is equal to the sacred inch. The Metric system uses the circumference of the earth from the pole to the equator as it's source. Since that distance varies at different places measured, the most logical and accurate system of measurement then would be the sacred inch system, because the earth's axis doesn't change.
Well what an interseting bit of lore. Perhaps we could bring to bear just a little scepticism to the table.First we have this item
On one day, at the Vernal Equinox in the year 2141 BC, Alpha Draconus, the "Dragon Star" in the Draco constellation, was the pole star and it was so perfectly aligned with the descending passage, that if someone was at the bottom holding a mirror, that star would reflect that light.
I cannot yet say but I am downloading a software package that will allow me to reverse the night sky into the past while watching the constellations. I will be able to verify whether Alpha Draconus was indeed in the location necessary to qualify as the pole star but I think at the moment that such is not the case.
Regardless we need to also ask how they were able to determine the polar axis on a direct course through the center of the planet.Given that the north star was Alpha Draconus {yet to be verified} we need the other half of the equation which is a perfectly aligned star to determine the location of the south polar axis.
Now I do not believe that there is much in the way of likelihood of such a occuence actually coming together between the northern and southern skies.But in order for a proper determination of this,
The source of this inch, is the axis of the earth. 1/500,000,000th part of the earth's axis is equal to the sacred inch.
We require both these to be present otherwise we have no way of determining the actual axis of the Earth.{nor does anybody else.}
Please see if you can bring this information to the table while I run the software to determine locations of stars in 2141 B.C.
This message has been edited by sidelined, 06-17-2004 08:29 PM

You paddle your kayak up the river from your camp to fetch your camera which you left on a rock upstream a bit. The river flows at a uniform 2 mi/hr. You paddle (on still water) at a uniform 3 mi/hr. It takes 30 minutes to reach your camera. If you paddle all the way back to your camp, how long will the return trip take?

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sidelined
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Message 98 of 355 (116589)
06-18-2004 10:24 PM
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06-18-2004 7:05 PM


Re: Sex Sells Scott's Show
WILLOWTREE
Where is any refutation against the scholarship of Dr.Scott ?
By refutation do you mean show that the scholarship is not worth anything as far as giving him an advantage over,say, a PHD on physics or chemistry.
In the areas of physics and biology he would be hopelessly lost as we can see by a outline of his philosophy of education course.
Philosophy of Education
Degree Offered: PhD
It is expected that the philosopher of education trained at Stanford will be able to
1. analyze and clarify concepts and chains of reasoning used by teachers, researchers, administrators,
and policymakers;
2. assess arguments and clarify the rhetoric of educational debates;
3. identify implicit assumptions in such arguments or statements;
4. enter into productive exchange with researchers or policymakers in at least one branch of social or
human science;
5. place educational issues, and issues arising from the social sciences, into a broader philosophical
and sociocultural context.
Graduates of this SSE subconcentration traditionally become college or university professors of the philosophy of education in departments or schools of education. However, a few graduates have secured joint or courtesy appointments in a school of education and a department of philosophy because of the intensive training in the minor field of general philosophy (many students take a master's degree in philosophy or philosophy of science).
It is a certainty that he has a generalized overview of areas of social sciences and would be unable to argue in areas of the "hard sciences". This leads me to asking if we can continue discussion of the "sacred inch" we were engaging in earlier. I will endevour to keep in contact but I am in the middle of a move and I am working 7 days a week for probably the rest of summer so please bear with any delays.Talk at you later.

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sidelined
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Message 211 of 355 (118614)
06-25-2004 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Cold Foreign Object
06-24-2004 7:21 PM


Willowtree
From post 73
I'm actually glad to see you participate here Sidelined.
I will get back to this post of yours ASAP.
Just a little note to state that I am still awaiting your response

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Message 217 of 355 (118750)
06-25-2004 5:42 PM
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06-25-2004 4:09 PM


WILLOWTREE
This is a quote from a previous post of yours.
Shove an imaginary pole through the Earth, and the distance from pole to pole can be chopped into 500,000,000 increments
we need the other half of the equation which is a perfectly aligned star to determine the location of the south polar axis.
Now I do not believe that there is much in the way of likelihood of such a occuence actually coming together between the northern and southern skies.But in order for a proper determination of this
Why do we need the other half ?
I made no claims about the 'southern' anything.
The descending passage is almost perfectly aligned with TRUE north star in 2141 BC.
In order for the distance to the pole to pole distance to be measured{of which the sacred inch is 1/500,000,000th part} it is necessary to determine where those poles are.Alpha Draconis {Thuban} was indeed the pole star in 2141,however it was not as close to earths polar axis as Polaris is today. The reason for the the locating of the southern pole star {Which could not have been located by the people in Egypt ever} is that this is the means by which we would be able to locate the southern pole which helps define the distance of the pole to pole rotational axis of the Earth necessary for accurately determining the sacred inch. Since we only have the location of north determined and not even very precisely then such a measurement is not very dependable is it?
Thuban's pole star position is given at this site
Page not found | Astronomy at Illinois
Among the best ever, however, was our Thuban, which was almost exactly at the pole in 2700 BC. It remained better than Kochab up to around 1900 BC, and was therefore the pole star during the time of the ancient Egyptian civilizations

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Message 220 of 355 (118761)
06-25-2004 6:04 PM
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06-25-2004 5:51 PM


I was not arguing the use of the pole star for the purpose of direction of the north pole. Willowtree is trying to establish that the "sacred inch" is 1/500,000,000 th part of the pole to pole distance. The use of Thuban to determine this would not be enough on its own.So what the hell did they measure the 1/500,000,000th part of I cannot tell.
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Message 296 of 355 (120374)
06-30-2004 1:37 PM


Willowtree
Sorry I have been away for awhile but I was wondering if you could respond to my point in Post #217 concerning the determination of the sacred inch and if you could tell me your source that claims to have determined this sacred inch so that I may see for myself the way in which it was arrived at.

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