PROOF OF GOD

see Shaw Communications Taking that image at face value as an "equal area" projection and eye balling it, it seems to me that the upper right quadrant clearly has more area of land than any of the other three. I'm using the meridan and parallel that intersect very close to the location of the great pyramid.Could you supply the exact measurements used to support your conjecture since it doesn't appear to be correct.

It says that 29 and a bit degrees north is the "longest land parallel". What does that mean exactly? (my interpretation suggests that it is not the longest) and please show the calculations that determine that.It is not clear that the meridian isn't the longest land meridian but it also not perfectly clear that it is. Please show the measurements.You didn't answer the question about the land in each quadrant and it sure looks like that isn't right.Hey I just did some checking (roughly) and it does look like it is darn close to the longest land parallel (if I know what that means).This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 06-21-2004 11:07 AMThis message has been edited by NosyNed, 06-21-2004 11:19 AM

I don't remember WT saying it was at the center of egypt. It is supposed to be at the center of the Nile delta.That map certainly suggests that's not true either but it is hardly a National Geographic quality of map.

Sorry, jar, you are right. It is clear that the quote you have lifted from the OP is wrong.What is interesting is that "roughly" Giza ia on the longest "land" meridian and parallel. What significance that is supposed to have is unclear.I'm also pretty sure that it is not in fact right on them. But that's going to take more careful measurements than I want to do on mappoint.I don't suppose it is worth waiting for WT to produce the confirming measurements is it? This message has been edited by NosyNed, 06-21-2004 04:49 PM

How can we determine if it is right or not if we don't know what it means?Here is my guess:
It means that the amount of land crossed by following the suggested meridian or parallel is longer for those than any other. It is also saying that BOTH of them are the longest. That's a surprise actually.I think this is what is claimed because of the way it is worded and because a quick measurements suggest that they are indeed pretty darn long and close to the longest.Is this what you are claiming?The equal area division of the land masses is, at visual inspection, on an equal area map -- wrong.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 06-21-2004 05:56 PM

Looking at an equal area map (which I posted before) by eye ball says the equal division of the earth's area is wrong.To settle that we'd need to see the calculations.I did go through with map point and did a measure of the meridian though Giza. I also did a measurement through another meridian.I will supply the figures for you to check. They suggest that the longest land meridian claim is wrong as well as the area one and the center of Egypt one.Giza 31.21127 E This Meridian is through Gizafrom 31.058 N 31.21102 E East of Baltim Egypt
to 29.5149 S 31.21623 E south of Tongaat S Africa
distance 4220 milesfrom 36.2791 N 31.21811 E near Serib Turkey
to 41.043 N 31.2976 E Black sea south
distance 295 milesfrom 46.644 N 31.22 E top of black sea
to 69.721 N 31.2257 E top of russian
distance 1590 milesfrom 70.33 N 148.66W north coast of alakska
to 59.96 N 149.81 W south coast
distance 718
from 69.08 S 31.761 E across antartica
to 71.535 S 169.44 E
distance 2530
9353 TOTAL DISTANCEEast of Benghazi THIS MERIDIAN IS WEST OF THE GIZA ONE
from 32.9477 N 21.887 E near Benghazi
to 34.2705 S 21.893 E
distance 4640from 36.74 N 21.889 E metloni Greece
to 57.63 N 21.91 E Latvia
distance 1440from 60.35 N 21.888 finland Turku
to 63.25 N 22.0 E finland Vassa
distance 194from 65.42 N 21.79 E Lulea Sweden
to 70.3 N 21.89 E north Norway
distance 340from 70.69 N 159.12 W north coast of alaska
to 58.73 N 159.22 south slope of alaska
distance 8272530 antarctica9971
My method was to pick points with as near as I could get same longitude (or 180 degrees away) and use Mappoints distance between tool.I used the same figure for Antarctica cause I'm getting sleepy and it's roughtly round. It could account for the several hundred miles distance though so you should measure that or find the original sources measurements.As it stands now I've got the only measurements available and your source is wrong. The pyramids are on a meridian close to the longest land medridian but not the longest by some hundreds of miles.

and the land meridian WT??

I gave you my measurements of the meridian. Your source is, with the best numbers presented so far, wrong. Again, calculations please. It maybe that precession can account for this but drift I'm very sure can not. You source is making this stuff up. There are no calculations or numbers to back this stuff up.

I explained my calculations in some detail. If you have any tool to measure distances (eg a globe) you can check them out.What part of the calculations do you want a more detailed explanation of?I am not declaring myself the winner (yet) I am saying I am ahead. I have some numbers and you don't. Until you do you have nothing but somebody's assertion.Oh, now you're finally getting to the "fish eye map". I choose that by googling for equal area projection. To do judgement of equal areas that is the kind of projection I think you have to use. A mercator sure doesn't do the job. So that is why I choose that one.What precisely is your objection to using an equal area projection to estimage areas?? What method would you suggest?You've been given as much detail as are available right now. You've been asked what you have on the other side. You've been asked for your detailed concerns with the methods used. The ball is in your court.Deciding not to answer at this point would be strongly suggestive of someone suddenly finding themselves trying to stand on no legs.

Bump for WT to supply his calculations.

The error in your source regarding the position of the pyramid needs your attention.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 06-24-2004 01:47 PM

While you argue about the height. Have you accepted that the position on the longest meridian might not be right?Or do you think that the calculations will go away if you ignore them? I won't.

That's right he hasn't but is complaining to percy about something in this thread but I don't have any idea of what specific things he doesn't like.It seems he gets a bit pissed off if you offer any refutation of the unsupported assertions in the book he refers too.

and what about the possibility that the pyramid isn't in the right place?Are you going to continue to hope that no one noticed you haven't backed up several of your assertions?

What an odd thing to say. All the pyramids were ransacked long ago. None of them have any gold left in them. Only one tomb has been found undisturbed and that is because they gave up trying to lock things in pyramids but instead went to hiding them.Your source is utterly wrong on this fact. As your other source has been shown (for the moment) to be wrong on the location of the pyramid.{added by edit)

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The mean density of the earth. Most current tests have it at 5,672 times the weight of water at 68 degrees Fahrenheit.

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Could you find more details on this calcultion? It is wrong by about a factor of 1,000.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 06-26-2004 02:45 PMThis message has been edited by NosyNed, 06-26-2004 02:46 PM