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Lindum
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Message 242 of 355 (119097)
06-26-2004 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Cold Foreign Object
06-26-2004 4:50 PM


Location, Location, Location...
Density is 5.515 according to NASA.
The same site gives a figure for polar radius, and some basic math shows the pyramid should be 138.55m using your OP figures. From the many sites Percy has listed, it isn't the case.
Anyway, my main reason for posting is your specified location of the pyramid. Using mapping software, I have located the pyramid at 29 58' 52.67" North, 31 8' 1.37" E, which is just under a mile away from your OP coords. I am willing to investigate your claims of the pyramid being the centre of land mass, longest land meridian and centre of delta coastline quadrant, but we must first agree where the pyramid actually is. Can you verify the position claimed in your OP?
PS: I have a nice map image showing the difference between the two locations, is there an easy way to upload the image to this board?

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Lindum
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From: Colonia Lindensium
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Message 245 of 355 (119109)
06-26-2004 9:32 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by Cold Foreign Object
06-26-2004 8:10 PM


Re: Location, Location, Location...
hope this works...
Image produced using Mapinfo Professional, satellite image from JPL.
My location of the pyramid shown in red, the claimed (post 72) position in blue.
WT writes:
What do you mean "verify".
My sources are not two bit mail order doctors from a fundie university. The claims have been made as fact. They are facts until someone can provide a preponderance of evidence against.
Sorry, I was not clear - I meant verify position as in the position of the pyramid. The only data I have to work with to check these claims is the location of the pyramid. The coords previously posted appear to be incorrect.
Post 230 is what I'm trying to investigate, but it gives me no data. For example, Henry Mitchell must have determined a radius for the delta coast quadrant to find the centre point - what is that radius? What were the coords of his survey points? If I have this info, I can map it to check the claim. Without underlying data, the claims are meaningless. This may sound negative, but consider that accurately mapping this may validate your position.

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Lindum
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Posts: 162
From: Colonia Lindensium
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Message 250 of 355 (119308)
06-27-2004 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by NosyNed
06-27-2004 1:02 PM


Re: Location, Location, Location...
ned writes:
Does it really matter? By my calculations the longest meridian is well away from either of these.
I don't think it would make any noticeable difference, but it's best to get the basic facts right. However, any calculation now seems moot, since Pink points out -
Smyth: "...the Great Pyramid's general parallel of 30...".
What's a general parallel? 100 miles each way? Apart from wishful thinking, this doesn't make the location of the Great Pyramid any more special than anything else within the range.
I think there is at least one "centre of land mass" in Africa, but at several hundred miles from the pyramid site. (I may attempt an approx calc if I can work up some enthusiasm!)

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Lindum
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Message 264 of 355 (119643)
06-28-2004 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by Cold Foreign Object
06-28-2004 5:29 PM


Re: Location, Location, Location...
WT writes:
You are asserting this.
Personally, I have no idea.
I have sources and their claims. I have posted them.
Your sources are wrong. Terraserver agrees with my location. Hopefully tomorrow, I'll calculate the land meridian from the true location of the Pyramid and see if I can find a longer one. If your sources could provide some actual data rather than just claims, that would make a useful comparison.
[edit: spelling]
This message has been edited by Lindum, 06-28-2004 05:00 PM

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Lindum
Member (Idle past 3426 days)
Posts: 162
From: Colonia Lindensium
Joined: 02-29-2004


Message 305 of 355 (120429)
06-30-2004 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by Cold Foreign Object
06-28-2004 6:34 PM


Re: Location, Location, Location...
WT writes:
You are asserting that the mile difference has my sources wrong and that your saying so makes it so.
Not just my say so - I gave you a link to Terraserver, did you check it?
Anyway, I've measured a couple of land meridians for you, one through the pyramid and one 331 miles west of the pyramid. You can see the data here, but the result is that the pyramid meridian is shorter by 384 miles. I don't expect you to take my word for it, but I've given you the data so you can either ignore it or have it checked. Do your sources supply any data for this particular claim?

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Lindum
Member (Idle past 3426 days)
Posts: 162
From: Colonia Lindensium
Joined: 02-29-2004


Message 320 of 355 (120620)
07-01-2004 5:16 AM
Reply to: Message 319 by NosyNed
06-30-2004 7:14 PM


Re: meridians
Ned writes:
{To WT} I told you up front that my meridian calculations are rough and ready. You didn't supply better ones. We now have what might be better ones (I haven't seen the details) and they still disagree with your sources.
Ned, I've updated my results page with some brief methodology details.
WILLOWTREE:
WT writes:
What is your point ?
Accuracy.
WT writes:
I will side with my sources based on their honesty to admit that other calulations that slightly disagree cannot be refuted and neither can theirs. But when you account for all their other claims and the evidence thereof this becomes a preponderance to side with the Ph.D's and their evidence.
You are, of course, free to believe your sources, however, before you descend into "argument by PhD", bear in mind the sources for the info which my data is based include NASA.
Once again, do your sources provide any data regarding the longest land meridian claim? They MUST have some recorded measurements to base their claim on. As Ned has pointed out, this isn't rocket science, just some points on a map and a little arithmetic.

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Lindum
Member (Idle past 3426 days)
Posts: 162
From: Colonia Lindensium
Joined: 02-29-2004


Message 326 of 355 (120867)
07-01-2004 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 323 by Cold Foreign Object
07-01-2004 3:26 PM


Re: meridians
WT writes:
Even by your own calculations, how did the builders get within a mile ?
They didn't get within a mile - you may have misread my recent posts. The pyramid is 331 miles away from a significantly longer land meridian. 331 miles is more than a slight contradiction.

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