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DrJones*
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Message 50 of 303 (399746)
05-07-2007 5:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by riVeRraT
05-07-2007 3:44 PM

Re: Why must you diminish and belittle GOD?
He concludes that the pyramids exist
No he observes that the pyramids exist, so he studies and experiments to develop a hypothesis that is consistent with all the known facts, this allows him to reach a tentative conclusion on how/why/when/etc. they were built.
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Cancer is a conclusion
Cancer is an observation so we go through the scientific process to come to a tentative Conclusion on how to best treat/cure it.
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Evolution. We are the conclusion, because we are here, then we seek to find out how.
We (and the diversity of other species of life) are the observation. Then we go through the scientific process to come to the tentative Conclusion that we (and other forms of life) evolved from previous forms of life.
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If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
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05-07-2007 9:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 55 by riVeRraT
05-07-2007 8:04 PM

Re: Why must you diminish and belittle GOD?
In all your definitions, your conclusion explains the "how."
no those were examples showing how what you claimed were conclusions were really observations. and that those observations could lead to some conclusions.
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Creation science does not explain the "how" only who, and that we were created,
Creation "science" does not explain anything, it claims that we were created and it claims that a "god" did it.
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If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
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05-08-2007 2:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 62 by riVeRraT
05-08-2007 9:36 AM

Re: Why must you diminish and belittle GOD?
Then what science are they claiming that they do?
Ask them. When you start from a conclusion (ie: the flood happened/the earth is young) you're not doing science, you're twisting reality to try to support your mythology.
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Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
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