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Message 123 of 197 (100380)
04-16-2004 11:09 AM
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04-16-2004 10:44 AM


Re: don't peep at the spy in my pie
I can't find any respectable sources stating that Darwin was a Freemason - and the Freemasons themselves would probably publicise it if it were true. I did find such an article naming Charles' grandfather Erasmus Darwin as a Freemason - but although Charles Darwin was mentioned there was no suggestion that he was also a Freemason.
http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/issue9-eye.shtml
Moreover most forms of Freemasonry require members to be theists (in the wide sense, including deists). An agnostic like Darwin is unlikely to have been admitted.

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Message 141 of 197 (100465)
04-16-2004 6:57 PM
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04-16-2004 6:40 PM


Re: don't peep at the spy in my pie
Conspiracy theories are really no more than an amusing game.
You can draw your tenuous links but do they really mean anything ? Freemasonry was in vogue amongst 18th Century intellectuals - so unsurprisingly some of the founders of the Royal Society were Freemasons. Charles Darwin and three of his children made contributions to science worthy of being elected to the Royal Society, so they were. There's no EVIDENCE of conspiracy in any of that.

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Message 147 of 197 (100554)
04-17-2004 3:46 AM
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04-16-2004 8:03 PM


Re: don't peep at the spy in my pie
That doesn't change the fact that much of the "evidence" you offered was nothing of the sort. In fact it was just the sort of game I described. If that is the sort of thing that impresses you then you need to take a more critical look at the evidence.

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Message 149 of 197 (100716)
04-18-2004 12:01 PM
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04-18-2004 11:44 AM


Re: don't peep at the spy in my pie
As I pointed out several of your links had no significance.
If that's the quality of your evidence then you have shown that your case is empty. It has the same flaws of all "Grand Conspiracy Theories".

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Message 153 of 197 (100862)
04-19-2004 3:59 AM
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04-18-2004 10:13 PM


Re: don't peep at the spy in my pie
Since creationists have a habit of misrepresenting quotes I suggest you check this resource which details many examples:
Quote Mine Project: Examining 'Evolution Quotes' of Creationists

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Message 190 of 197 (101581)
04-21-2004 2:41 PM
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04-21-2004 1:58 PM


Revelation 13
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads: 17 And no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
At what other time in history have we had the capability or technology to use a 'mark' to monitor financial transactions?
To start with the majority of Bible translations do not use "in" - they use "on" or an equivalent wording (I checked 16 on biblegateway.com - excluding the NIV-UK as being redundant and getting no result for NLV - only 3 used "in")
As for the technology required we need:
1) The ability to make a permanent mark on human skin. Tatooing and brands have been around for a long time. Since the mark is described as being a representation of the "Beast"'s name or number this is clearly adequate.
2) Money. That was also well-established even by the time of writing.
3) The ability to make and enforce laws.
All of thse are well within Roman capabilities.

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