Because I gave my life in eternity ...with Jesus...for them to go instead, and they were too proud and independent to allow the Creator of all seen and unseen to welcome them into His world.
They wouldn't belong in Heaven. One cant simply have a spot all their own in such a place. In fact, the whole sin of rejecting God boils down to selfishness. Wanting to be allowed to live in your own little corner...in a house built by someone else and eternity bought and paid for by someone else---and still be stubborn enough not to acknowledge the gift!! Meanwhile, down in hell, I would probably be eternally miserable unless I could strike a deal allowing me to c ease to exist rather than go through what is described as eternal torment...(perhaps lament?? )
No man is an island nor does any man really own one. We are all renters in this universe, whether we believe the landlord exists or not.
You're misusing the quote.
quote:No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. -- John Donne
It's not about an alien overlord. It's about taking care of each other.
"Any man's death diminishes me." If anybody goes to hell, I'm being punished too.
If God offers you ten souls for yours, the proper thing to do is negotiate, like Abraham did for the Sodomites. Ask for ten billion.
Obviously then my belief would be wrong. The idea that Heaven wouldn't include Jesus, however, brings up an entire alternative understanding of what Heaven was all about. Perhaps it would thus be like a giant rehab center for broken people, since every bit of what we know about the character of Jesus shows Him to be above reproach.
The analogy is obvious...Jesus sacrificed His life for the benefit of all of us---thus would we do the same for many others...but critics assert that it was not as much of a sacrifice for the Son of God seing as He already was eternally in Heaven and would never be booted out so that we all could get in...though other commentators mention that even a moment away from communion is a huge sacrifice that we humans would never understand. I would never make a sacrifice simply out of altruistic love for others---quite honestly I dont have that much love naturally for the rest of humanity....and I wouldnt sacrifice for ten otherwise good people who had no interest in meeting the host of the venue. I guess im just too selfish.
...Jesus sacrificed His life for the benefit of all of us---
If that was true, there would be no topic. Jesus sacrifiiced His life -temporarily - only for those of us who accept Him. The topic's question is: Would you sacrifice your life permanently for others?
I would never make a sacrifice simply out of altruistic love for others---quite honestly I dont have that much love naturally for the rest of humanity........and I wouldnt sacrifice for ten otherwise good people who had no interest in meeting the host of the venue.
If you don't have the love that He TOLD you to have, why would He want you?
The whole point---which you likely disagree with since you are a works oriented type of guy---is that we need Jesus (or Gods) impartation to even be able to have the necessary love. Its not a matter of willing oneself to do the impossible and achieve the necessary altruistic effort. Anyone who is honest would likely admit that they dont have what it takes, though some would argue that we can do it ourselves. I maintain that we cannot.
As for why He would want us...(or nah) my point is that He died (and lived) for broken imperfect people...not for do-gooders who are willing and able to lay their lives down...macho style....like a fearless commando taking a bullet to protect ten.