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purpledawn
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Message 31 of 85 (185053)
02-14-2005 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Thor
01-10-2005 9:36 PM


Limited Rule
Maybe the author didn't intend for man to rule everything in the sea!
According to Richard Elliott Friedman in his book "Who Wrote The Bible?", the first chapter of Genesis is considered to be written by the same priestly author that wrote Leviticus. He states that they were probably written after the fall of the northern kingdom.
This verse shows that the writer understood that there were various creatures in the water.
Genesis 1:20-21
And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures...
So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds...
Now we have the verse in question:
Genesis 1:26
Then God said...and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.
Notice we don't have rule over the sea, but we supposedly do over all the earth and all the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air.
Since the writer did not give man rule over the sea, he understood that humans couldn't rule where they couldn't survive.
Now look at what the writer says God allows the Hebrews to eat.
Leviticus 11:9-10
Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales. But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales--whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water--you are to detest.
IMO, the priestly author gave man rule over where he felt they could survive and over creatures that were necessary to their survival.

A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

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purpledawn
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Message 33 of 85 (186217)
02-17-2005 1:34 PM
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02-14-2005 6:06 PM


Re: Limited Rule
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This reminds us that the author of Genesis imagined Earth and Sea as separate realities;
Do you have any idea when humans realized they were on a planet?
I never took the words "earth" and "world" used by the authors of the Bible to refer to an entire planet as we view it today, but instead they refered to land, territories, or cities; known to them.

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purpledawn
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Message 38 of 85 (186349)
02-17-2005 6:43 PM
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02-17-2005 6:11 PM


Re: Limited Rule
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I like to think the truth was suspected by some even before the Pythagoreans published.
Realistically, how quickly would it really spread? Even today, with all the media available, there are a lot of scientific breakthroughs that don't make it through to the masses.
The duties of the priests didn't really include keeping up on discoveries.
Always interesting to think of how the past might have been.
Thanks for talking with me.

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