Biblical contradictions.

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Some people think that possession of a concordance makes them experts. Too bad it's not that simple. I've been fondling girlie magazines all my life and I still don't know a damned thing about women.

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Hehehehe.
Good line.I just wanted to post this link since this is a "battling bible verses" thread...
http://www.blueletterbible.org/
Blue Letter Bible...
That Land of Nod quote is here:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen004.html#16
If you click on the little blue boxes you get all sorts of intersting information, including various translations.
NKJV: Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. NKJV Copyright 1982 Thomas Nelson
NASB: Then Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden. NASB copyright 1995 Lockman Foundation
RSV: Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, east of Eden. RSV copyright info
HNV: Kayin went out from the LORD's presence, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of `Eden.
Young's: And Cain goeth out from before Jehovah, and dwelleth in the land, moving about east of Eden;
Darby: And Cain went out from the presence of Jehovah, and dwelt in the land of Nod, toward the east of Eden.
ASV: And Cain went out from the presence of Jehovah, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Vulgate: egressusque Cain a facie Domini habitavit in terra profugus ad orientalem plagam EdenFun, fun.brett
ps... Adam&Eve on the web:
http://www.adameve.com
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Faith in a delusional belief does not make that belief not delusional.

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"My question is this: If Adam & Eve and their children were the only people on earth at the time, who was this woman that Cain took for a wife?"
--His sister (Ahhh!).

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Ah the joys of banging your younger sister!
I just love the morals espoused in the *literal* intepretation of the bible.

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--Who? Do you mean Where? or What? Where - in the east, What - A named territory of land.

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Why was it named Nod?

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--No.

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Then why was it named Nod?
Was Eden East taken?

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"Were there other people on this planet before Adam and Eve?"
--No.

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Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

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"Has something been omitted? Was 'Gods Word' edited by men? If so, by whom?"
--No

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Then what are these?
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com
"Gods word" has been carefully edited since they created.

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"And what are the implications on the validity of the Bible as the infallible word of God if it has been edited by men?"
--See above.

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And yet the air above my head is still quite empty.brett
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--Its a cultural belief and way of life, maybe a little more professionalism in your post bretheweb?

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Oh come now Tru... dont tell me you're shying away from the morals espoused in the "word of god"?
Dressing it up in pretty words might make you feel better about it, but it doesnt change the facts.

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Before Moses set the law down against incest, there was no problem within its practice.

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Absolute nonsense, Tru.
I think it was Mr.Pamboli who pointed out the pervasive, cross-cultural and ancient taboo against incest.
To suggest that at some point prior to Moses it was acceptable is ridiculous.On a side note, it seems that A&E would have been playing it safer by encouraging their children to engage in sibling incest as this is, genetically speaking, the least detrimental with the issue of father/daughter fornication being the most detrimental.

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I guess this is immoral but homosexuality is completely fine...

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Now what has one got to do with the other?

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--Why did God make the sky blue? Why not Green?

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While I appreciate a tap-dance as much as the next guy, I wasnt asking a rhetorical question.
The blueness of the sky and the greenness of the grass are the result of the good old laws of nature and have nothing to do with the supernatural. Sorry.

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Its a bit of a circulatory question.

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You wanna try that one again, chief?
"Circulatory": of or relating to circulation or the circulatory system. [QUOTE]Though you may find the definitions of the word 'nod' interesting:404: This page could not be found[/URL] -->]404: This page could not be found< !--UE-->[/QUOTE]None of which answers my question.Now come on Tru, any fool can paste a dictionary definition as if it is meaningful.How hard is it to simply admit you dont know?Quick question.
Why are you posting the English dictionary definition for a non-English place name?

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--See above.

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I looked.
Your non answer is still unsatisfactory.

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--Yes, and?

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"Giants"?
We've got the million year old fossils of massive animals... where are the 6000 year old fossils of massive humanoids?

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--A little more specific than providing a link please? Possibly a quote (If you will, try not to be willingly attempting to discourage, such attempts are usual happenings and easily detectable at times)

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Apologies, the link is:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/apocrypha.html
How does this and the Council of Nicea jibe with your assertion that the bible is unedited?

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--And your implying?

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Was I implying something?

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--I posted what seemed to be needed and relevant, besides my providing the definitions quote, the post seems suitable.

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Much obliged.brett------------------
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"I ask again . . . .Has something been omitted?"
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"Who performed this editing?"
--Nothing was edited, this is the way it was written.

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You do realize you just contradicted yourself, right?"Ommission" of the "irrelevant" works (determined to be so by whom exactly?) means that it was edited.
No way to avoid that fact.brett------------------
Faith in a delusional belief does not make that belief not delusional.

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I'm confused. Was incest morally right or morally wrong before the Mosaic law was formulated?

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According to the internal logic of the bible it would have to be morally right as, in this case, it preceded the laws that defined it as wrong.Right?brett------------------
Faith in a delusional belief does not make that belief not delusional.

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As far as incest is concerned, it wasn't addressed before Moses.

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Really?
And your sources for this? [/quote]This is because contrary to what most atheists believe, man is not EVOLVING, but DEVOLVING.[/quote]Ahhhh.
Well that explains everything then. Now here is where you provide compelling evidence to support this assertion.
Also, you are aware that "devolution" is still *evolution*, right?
Lets assume that a T-Rex's small front limbs were actually once more powerful/useful.Though, honestly, the two concepts dont have much in common.
Devolution presumes an order from which to "devolve".
Evolution, being only about change, doesnt care one way or the other.

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Back when Adam was around, we had PERFECT DNA.

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LOL
How do you know this?
Were you there?
Do we have a DNA sample?
What bible verse is that derived from?

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So there was no problem back then with intermarriage.

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Certainly not in *that* particular creation myth, true.
However, lets not confuse that with reality.

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After many successive generations the DNA structure became corrupt or in other words FLAWED.

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Once more with feeling... and your compelling evidence for this is?
Hell, I'd settle for a bible verse that specifically mentions DNA.
Flawed or not.

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This is in part to one of the fundamental laws of entropy which states that as time goes by order will decrease.

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Ahh... close, but no ceegar.The SLOT states that entropy ***in a closed system*** can never decrease so long as entropy is defined as unavailable energy. In a closed system, available energy can never increase, so its opposite, entropy, can never decrease.The universe is in fact winding down... even as stars are being born, decreased entropy, and stars are dying out, increased entropy.Life, at least on this planet, just happens to be one of those decreases in entropy in a very tiny subsystem of a much larger system. [/quote]Order,can never increase without INTELLIGENT outside intervention.[/quote]And your evidence for this is?
That life has arisen on this planet... that stars are born... all point to the contrary of your statement.

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This is also why we age and die. Each time our cells reproduce, errors are introduced. This is somewhat like making a copy of a copy of a copy on a XEROX. Does the 20th generation look as good as the original?

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Your evidence?It occurs to me that the only "perfect" DNA that ever existed was the very first strand that arose.Sorry to sound like a broken record, but I'd like to see the basis for your assertions.brett------------------
Faith in a delusional belief does not make that belief not delusional.