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Author Topic:   Independent Historical Corroboration for Biblical Events
Doctor Robert
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Message 99 of 212 (63097)
10-28-2003 3:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Peter
02-11-2002 10:27 AM


Bible facts?
Well it may not be archaeological but what does the Bible prove? It shows us that Psalms 22 and 69 being preached by Jesus upon the cross and the events that took place that same time. Many mistakenly attribute what Christ said on the cross as a moment of doubt and pain but is far from the truth to those that read it. Did the Romans wake up that morning of Jesus' crucifixion and say "shall we fulfill the Hebrew Bible today?" I dont think so. The Psalms in question were written almost 1,000 years before Christ was born and played out EXACTLY as it was written. Does this villify or verify the Bible? Did the Romans decide to fulfill the Jews' prophecies by crucifying Jesus EXACTLY as quoted in Psalms 22 and 69? How they gambled for His robes? How they pierced Him? How they offered Him vinegar? How they people standing about Him "wagging their heads" and telling Him to come down if he be the Messiah? I dont think so. But that is prophesy more to your liking and request, YES there is archaeological information to support not only the Biblical events but also Biblical extremities. E. Raymond Capt books are great, E.W. Bullinger books supply even more. Recent archaeological digs have shown much, much more. Do a google search on biblical archaeology and see what you come up with. The city of Ar, Jerico, and Meggido. Egyptology, and much, much more. Did you know Hebrews came to America long before Colombus or even the vikings? Over 1,000 years before even the Vikings came the Pheonicians and Hebrews came to America and represent the "native" Americans of the U.S.A.
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Doctor Robert
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Message 101 of 212 (63148)
10-28-2003 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Brian
10-28-2003 9:44 AM


Re: Bible facts?
Obviously if you spent more time studying instead of living indarknes of the con game that has plagued you and Christian mankind for 1,973 years you may have been able to have received this "proof" you have been seeking all your darkened life.
Only those foolish enough to want to destroy what the spiritual Biblical accounts have shown to many and have been hidden TO many such as yourself proves the exact point that God's word is exact. Some people (like yourself) are fooled into a false security of lies and misrepresentations. In fact and it is fact brian that science has not disqualified Biblical accounts but has proven them. Something you obviously do not comprehend. The logistics of pre-escatoligical advancments has shown that not only is the Bible correct in its assertions but more accurate than any reletive prophetic or inane philosiphies produced as a result of lies and said misrepresentation.
F.Y.I.
Jesus was repeating Psalms 22 while dying on the cross. He quoted it in front of Roman witnesses as well as Kenite ones. Since it was NOT Jews that crucified Him (something you probably didnt know), why then would they lie? In fact there is historical documentation both roman and jewish that do this exact thing. For your information they can be located in the United States Congressional Library. Something else I dare discern you do not know. The American Archaeological Institution in Washington D.C. can also help you out on these eye witness reports.
In Psalms 22 It is written 1,000 years before His birth and it is a fact whether you want to believe it or not shows you have no historical evidence your self and are in complete denial. We know this from found documentation both in America and in the area known as the Dead Sea these things are factual. Again I suggest you put down those false books written to dispel Biblical events that were only written for pocket money (called profit) in exchange for ignorant persons such as yourself aqnd to keep you ignorant to draw improper conclusions of what is a fact both historically and archeaologically whcih were done without profit. You see you have NO proof that it isnt. We both know that dont we?
All one has to do is read Psalms 22 and then read what Christ did say while upon the cross. Even at His death He was teaching but you wouldnt know that would you brian? In fact in Luke a doctor not a spiritualist or imaginable delusions or lies wrote and did actual historical research as a man of science and reported what he did in his book by his own name. You see Christ never had a moment of doubt in the garden nor hesitation to go to the cross for you. Something you inherantly wouldnt know either. Of course you would have to be a bit of a scholar and historian as well as a linguist or perhaps know something of the languages used and written. Luk_12:50 When Christ said; "But I have a baptism to be baptized with," means; His crucification, not by water but by spirit is why he said he rendered his spirit to the father before he died. "And how am I straitened till it shall be accomplished!" just means; He was anxious to do it. And how I am straitened (kai pwv sunexomai [no greek fonts here]). See this same vivid verb sunexomai in Luk_8:37; Act_18:5; Phi_1:23 where Paul uses it of his desire for death just as Jesus does here. The urge of the Cross is upon Jesus at the moment of these words. We catch a glimpse of the tremendous passion in his soul that drove him on.
Jesus fulfilled much of the old testament but of course you wouldnt know that brian would you since you refuse to study to shew thyself unto God a workman worthy of his praise. No you probably only want to worship your satan god and continue in his efforts to destroy. Like father like son?
Let's get you some fulfillment in your miserable darkened life. And people wonder why God allows this or that or doesnt hear someones prayer, total ignorance like this denies Him.
PROPHECIES FULFILLED IN JESUS
Prophecy
Isa_11:1
Isa_7:14
Mic_5:2
Dan_9:25
Description
PRE-EXISTENCE AND BIRTH
Fulfillment
Rev_22:16
Mat_1:18-23
Mat_2:1; Luk_2:1-7
Luk_3:1; Luk_21:20-22
Prophecy
Mal_3:1; Mal_4:5-6
Isa_3:1-4
Isa_11:2
Isa_61:1-3
Isa_53:3
Zec_9:9
Description
PUBLIC MINISTRY
Fulfillment
Luk_1:13-17
Mat_3:1-3; Mat_11:10-13
Mat_3:16
Luk_4:16-21
Mar_3:6
Mat_21:1-11
Prophecy
Isa_53:4-8
Dan_9:26
Psa_34:20; Exo_12:46
Zec_13:7
Isa_53:9, Isa_53:12
Psa_22:7-8
Psa_22:18
Psa_22:1
Psa_16:10; Isa_53:10
Description
DEATH AND RESURRECTION
Fulfillment
Joh_19:18
2Co_5:21
Joh_19:33, Joh_19:36
Mat_26:31, Mat_26:56
Luk_23:32-33; Joh_19:39
Mat_27:39-43
Mat_27:35; Joh_19:23-24
Mat_27:46; Mar_15:34
Mat_1:1-6; Act_2:22-32
Prophecy
Psa_110:1, Psa_110:4
Description
PRESENT MINISTRY
Fulfillment
Heb_5:1-10
The reason why one knows Psalms 22 and 69 were written almost 1,000 years before Christ is because David wrote them. Guess when he lived if you can brian? Their births are recorded in the Roman legislature documentation for taxes that were demaned of every Hebrew the Romans had conqust over. DUH! Or are the Roman antagonitsts lying too? You see also in Egypt there are records by Pharoah's security forces of births and deaths. In fact the very kenites that murdered Christ on the cross to fulfill yet another part of prophecy today believes and has recordation of these events. Many today are called Islam. Now if you know anyting about Islam you know they care not for the Jews nor Christianity but of course in your small unknowledable mind you wouldnt be up on current events that started about 636 A.D. or possibly you never heard of Mohamad? Oh thats right, there is no "proof" is there that he existed in your incompetant mental fradualties. Some people are just plain lazy. Flip flops on a matress as God calls you, never getting anywhere.
Letters to Tiberius Caeser by one Pontius Pilate. Maybe you should read them brian and wake up to reality. Christianity is NOT a religion it IS a reality. LETTERS OF HEROD AND PILATE,
CONNECTING ROMAN HISTORY with THE Death OF CHRIST AT
JERUSALEM.

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Doctor Robert
Junior Member (Idle past 7486 days)
Posts: 7
From: USA all the way
Joined: 10-28-2003


Message 102 of 212 (63149)
10-28-2003 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Doctor Robert
10-28-2003 4:44 PM


Re: Bible facts? #2
JUST NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR KNOWLEDGE
CONNECTING ROMAN HISTORY with THE Death OF CHRIST AT
JERUSALEM.

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Doctor Robert
Junior Member (Idle past 7486 days)
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From: USA all the way
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Message 103 of 212 (63150)
10-28-2003 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Doctor Robert
10-28-2003 4:47 PM


Re: Bible facts? #2
CONNECTING ROMAN HISTORY with THE Death OF CHRIST AT
JERUSALEM.

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Doctor Robert
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From: USA all the way
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Message 104 of 212 (63151)
10-28-2003 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Brian
10-28-2003 9:44 AM


Re: Bible facts?
CONNECTING ROMAN HISTORY with THE Death OF CHRIST AT
JERUSALEM.

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Doctor Robert
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From: USA all the way
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Message 105 of 212 (63152)
10-28-2003 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Doctor Robert
10-28-2003 4:44 PM


Re: Bible facts?
Well not enough space I guess to post all the knowledge guess you will have to remain in the dark brian. You are not really a Christian are you Brian?

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Doctor Robert
Junior Member (Idle past 7486 days)
Posts: 7
From: USA all the way
Joined: 10-28-2003


Message 110 of 212 (63228)
10-29-2003 12:11 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by PaulK
10-28-2003 5:23 PM


Re: Bible facts?
since the post didnt get all posted then there is no reason to go on. You are not really a Christian are you brian nor this board. Your facts are in fact incorrect and you know absolutely nothing and I know what university you are attending. Therefore is no point as they assert points of historical and archaeological standing that is only conjecture and opinion and not fact. Thanks but you can keep your stupid board and your stupid opinions to your damned selves. This is the fallacy of people that learn untruths as truths and continue in our society. Now that I know where you are all coming from the point is moot. As are your miserable lives. Bye. I cant even say godspeed according to God just remember, Pro_6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:" 1- A proud look 2- A lying tongue 3- Hands that shed innocent blood 4- Heart that deviseth wicked imaginations 5- Feet that be swift in running to mischief 6- A false witness that speaketh lies 7- He that soweth discord among brethren.
Scripture tells us to mark them- NOT Judge them. Only God is Judge.

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