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crashfrog
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Message 170 of 183 (81402)
01-28-2004 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by ex libres
01-28-2004 4:49 PM


Read a history book lately son?
Have you read the Constitution lately? And compared it with the Ten Commandments?
Can you show me the Biblical basis for freedom of religion? Because I'm familiar with a Bible that says "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me." Can you show me the Biblical basis for free-market capitalism? Because I'm familiar with a Bible that says "Thou shalt not covet thy neighboor's ass." (Covetousness being the very basis of capitalism.) Can you show me the Biblical basis for democracy? Because I'm familiar with a Bible that historically has always been used to defend monarchies.
This isn't a Christian country. It never has been. It's always been a secular government with an air of ceremonial Deism.
Look at your money "In God WE (thats the US) Trust"
Added in the 1950's in response to "godless" communism. Just like that "One nation under God" bit in the Pledge. Used to just say "one nation" before the 1950's. (I guess you haven't read any history books, either.)
Now if you are going to say that to be a Christian is antithetical to being American you are just plain crazy.
Of course he's not saying that, and neither am I. What he's saying is that allowing the Bible to be used to dictate law to everybody, Christian or not, is un-American. You know, First Amendment and all.
If anything, societies shift to secular humanism is un-American.
Again, it's you who needs to read a history book. I'd start with the writings of Thomas Jefferson who was adamant that Christianity not be allowed to dictate law to non-Christians. It's not a shift. It's the way it's always been.
By the way, if the the constitution did not say that we are given INAILENABLE RIGHTS by our CREATOR, then would our rights be inailenable under man?
Your ignorance embarasses you. The Constitution doesn't say that we have inalienable rights bestowed by our creator. The Constitution makes no mention of a creator, Christian or otherwise. Why don'y you try reading the Constitution before you talk about it?
The document you're thinking of is the Declaration of Independance, which is neither a law nor a foundation of our government. It's simply a declaration.
All you have to do is look at the histories of other countries that abandoned God to see that when God is removed from control then tyranny occurs.
To the contrary. The most prosperous countries, and the ones with the least crime, least poverty, and most affulent citizens, are the most secular ones like Sweden. Whereas here in America our poorest are among the world's poorest. Some Christian nation we are.
Your ignorance of our history is what is un-American. Lord forbid you actually open a history book before you accuse others of not doing so. What a hypocrite.
[This message has been edited by crashfrog, 01-28-2004]

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