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In any case, I think if you read thrugh these forums there is a wealth of information that would steer you away from the bible and christianity. It has good philosphies, but it simply does not make sense in a litteral way.

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The above certainly may be true.In this statement and elsewhere, however, I sense a (so far small) increase in "militant atheism" happening at . While certain "militant Christian" messages may trigger such, and while this is not against forum guidelines, I personally would prefer that "militant atheism" not become a significant part of .Moose (in the "semi-admin" mode)

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In this statement and elsewhere, however, I sense a (so far small) increase in "militant atheism" happening at .

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I think I overreacted to Yaro's message 2. What I recall setting me off more, was a series of messages "elsewhere". Not that I can find that topic, and those messages now.Now, Buz said:

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If the Bible, for example, is not consistent and sensible on matters of the trinity, it's gona be hard to argue for it's creation story.

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I really don't see the connection between the Trinity concept, and the creation story. Each stands or falls on it's own merits.The matter of the Trinity is purely one of a theological argument. Science has no argument against the Trinity. Science's argument is against the creation story.I just don't like seeing the more valid aspects of Christianity (possibly including the Trinity) getting dragged down though some undeserved association with creationism.Buz, I'm not trying to lump you in with the following statement (maybe you deserve to be included, maybe not). But I see "Fundamentalist Christianity" to be misguided in what they seem to find important as their fundamentals. To me, the fundamentals of Christianity are not the obsessing over details in the Old Testament, some which clash with worldly observations. The fundamentals of Christianity, is the following of the teachings of Christ (things of the New Testament).Cheers,
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Then why do we have Biblical accuracy and faith/belief forums? It has been my understanding that these forums were for this purpose??

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I am hoping to get back to this question, in a response elsewhere, from the "admin-mode". My comment for now is, that there seems to be 3 varities of themes in these forums. 1)Conflicts between theology and science etc., 2) Purely theological conflicts, and 3) The "grey" area topics.

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Every fundamentalist Christian carries and uses the complete Bible. They are fundamentally inseparable. The apostles and Jesus used the OT extensively and based everything they taught on the foundation of the OT.

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It think this well summarizes what non-fundimentalist Christians find disturbing about Christian fundimentalism. That the validity of Christianity absolutely rides on the Bible being "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth".At best, the Bible is a text that has been passed through the processing of man. It is a flawed text. But these flaws need not be fatal to Christianity in general.Moose------------------
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