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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
I'm just not sold on the falsehood of Genesis. Obviously, none of us were there at the beginning of time (be that 6000 years or billions of years ago), but as far as I can tell the modern science that is supposed to disprove Genesis 1 has too many holes in it. Science has never disproved nor will it every disprove Genesis 1:1.
Gene 1:1 (KJV) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Science would have to prove that God does not exist to disprove Genesis 1:1. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Fortunately there is enough evidence for evolution and Genesis has been proven wrong There is enough evidence to prove micro evolution.There is not enough evidence to prove macro evolution as it has never been observed or duplicated under laboratory conditions. As far as proving Genesis 1:1 wrong I wish you lots of luck.To do so you have to prove God does not exist. Do you have proof Genesis 1:1 is false? Enjoy "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Evolution may never be proven conclusively. Then you are admitting to believing it by faith.
The theory of gravity is a perfect explanation for our current observations. Gravity is gravity and has nothing to do with things changing over time.
There is no need to disprove the existence of God to disprove the creation myth in Genesis. Then prove Genesis 1:1 is a myth.
The Genesis creation myth as an accurate historical account has been falsified by astronomy, geology, biology, genetics and evolution. I did not say anything about what you or anyone else says about the accounts in Genesis 1:2-Genesis 2:3, or Genesis 2:4-Genesis 4:26. I said Genesis 1:1. Genesis 1:1 says in the beginning. Science says in the beginning. Genesis says God did it. Science says singularity did it. You cannot prove or disprove either. Or would you like to try? "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Dont debate anything that happened before ...say...the book of Kings. Hi Nim, Have read many of your posts, am delighted. But here I am stuck on Genesis 1:1 It makes a statement, that is either true or false. I choose to believe it to be true. I debated the 2 accounts of creation in another thread for over 300 posts most of these guys did not post there. The ever loving jar and Ringo did and I appreciate that. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
LOL - my sympathies. Its amazing how distorted the impression of the OT is. They even forget proper grammar in concluding two creation stories! I am too old to remember proper grammer. I actually called it The Literal Genesis acccount of creation. I used the KJV Bible only. And I stand corrected there is only one creation and then the seven days of Moses or the re-creation of certain things (or whatever you would prefer to call it), in Genesis 1:2-Genesis 2:3. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Like I said before; it is nonsensical to talk about proving or disproving the existence of God. Science cannot prove it either way, because science is about observations and something that cannot be observed by definition falls outside of the realm of science. Personally I also feel it falls outside of the realm of common sense, but that is a different story altogether. You addressed what Genesis 1:1 says. Fine You totally ignored what science says about the same subject. What you believe happened is just as preposterous to me an is Genesis 1:1 to you. I believe God did it. You believe it just happened, and you know for a fact it did because we are here presenting different views about what happened. I believe Genesis 1:1, Genesis 2:4-Genesis 4:26 gives a complete and accurate account of the day the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
First of all, I do not believe Genesis 1:1 is preposterous. You sure fooled me on that one.
I think it is highly unlikely and that it defies common sense to believe in something so unlikely. I find it just as highly unlikely that a singularity suddenly appeared, something about the size of a dime. Of which no one knows the origin, how or why it suddenly appeared. Since there was no before where did it come from. But that is not my biggest problem.That is how do you pack everything in the entire universe into that something about the size of a dime that suddenly appeared from ????? Science is by definition based on evidence. What evidence does science have for the hypothesis of the beginning that I do not have for Genesis 1:1?
The logical conclusion is that the theory proposed by science is more likely, simply because any evidence is better than no evidence at all. 404-page | Princeton University PressWhy is nothing (singularity had to come from nothing) did it better than God did it? The universe is full of galaxies and their stars. Probably, hopefully, there is other life out there and background light and maybe some ripples in space. There are bright objects and dark objects. Things we can see and things we can't. Things we know about and things we don't. All of it. This glut of ingredients could carry on in every direction forever. Never ending. Just when you think you've seen the last of them, there's another galaxy and beyond that one another infinite number of galaxies. No infinity has ever been observed in nature. Nor is infinity tolerated in a scientific theory - except we keep assuming the universe itself is infinite. It wouldn't be so bad if Einstein hadn't taught us better. And here the ideas collide so I'll just pour them out unfiltered. Space is not just an abstract notion but a mutable, evolving field. It can begin and end, be born and die. Space is curved, it is a geometry, and our experience of gravity, the pull of the earth and our orbit around the sun, is just a free fall along the curves in space. From this huge insight people realized the universe must be expanding. The space between the galaxies is actually stretching even if the galaxies themselves were otherwise to stay put. The universe is growing, ageing. And if it's expanding today, it must have been smaller once, in the sense that everything was once closer together, so close that everything was on top of each other, essentially in the same place, and before that it must not have been at all. The universe had a beginning. There was once nothing and now there is something. What sways me even more, if an ultimate theory of everything is found, a theory beyond Einstein's, then gravity and matter and energy are all ultimately different expressions of the same thing. We're all intrinsically of the same substance. The fabric of the universe is just a coherent weave from the same threads that make our bodies. How much more absurd it becomes to believe that the universe, space and time could possibly be infinite when all of us are finite. quote: I am not sure about that any evidence thing. I have seen a lot of fabricated evidence in my lifetime about a lot of different things. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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