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k.kslick
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Message 134 of 562 (78491)
01-14-2004 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by crashfrog
07-05-2003 5:11 PM


Re: Thread Relocation
Ok, for someone who it sounds like has a phd ( or acts like it ) doesn't know his stuff! I am in 9th grade and in biology. The reason DNA is repetitive is for a mirror ( like a ftp mirror ). It can compare it to the other to find 'errors'. As for being random, over half of the DNA does NOT code for anything! It sits there and does nothing. Sometimes the DNA is shuffled - causing some used DNA and some unused DNA change. GOD created it this way, I assume so that more 'mutations' are possible.
Also, which seems more likely... a God, who hhas always been, is, and always will be...
Or... a chance so unlikly it is a mathematical impossiblity?

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k.kslick
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Message 135 of 562 (78493)
01-14-2004 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Rrhain
07-19-2003 7:00 AM


Lab experiment
Darwin said that evolution happens in slow steps, like the one in the experiment you stated which involved cellular evolution. The evolution Creationists are against is evolution which says all life came from nothing and there is no God. If evololution happened why can't we find ANY proof? I.E: many stages of humans, or even humans today who are extremely monkey-like? Evolution on the large scale - DOES not happen.

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k.kslick
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Message 137 of 562 (78496)
01-14-2004 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by k.kslick
01-14-2004 7:43 PM


Red-Shift Radiation
Red-Shift Radiation - most evolutionists agree is the echo of the creation of the world. The echo of red-shift radiation has been followed and it has shown the origin of the real 'big bang!' It is earth. The odds of us happening to be the center of all life are... WOW long. Also being the center of life shows we are here for a purpose - the center of ALL life. But evolutionists changed their theory of the 'big bang' being an oval shaped explosion, which would make earth not be the center of all life. A circular ExPlOsIoN is far more likly. There would be no reason for the explosion to be oval.

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k.kslick
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Message 138 of 562 (78498)
01-14-2004 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Andya Primanda
04-14-2003 5:12 AM


Someone earlier said the following:
"Also, finding a skull that is half-human and half-ape DOES NOT prove evolution (it just proves that there was an animal that had both ape and human characteristics).
FYI, there are several human fossils that has been discovered, and put in context (time & morphological change) each made a part of a good, if incomplete, sequence. They're in the right age and shape to serve as a model for desecent with modification.
Anyway, consider your statement: if the apeman was a separate creation from apes and humans, then what purpose does it serve to be created for? To trick us into postulating that humans evolve from primitive apes?"
If evolution happened the apeman would serve no purpose in being created because there would be NO purpose in life.
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That is the chance of evolution creating any form of organism.
Assume that chance came around, there is one organism. WOW! ok, wait. we are forgetting this organism actually has to be self-suffictiant and have some form of reproductive system. Not only would it have to have that but then it would have to further evolve.
Really the chances of evolution happening in the first place are far greater than that organism evolving FURTHER! HOLY COW! that would be millions of times more unlikly.
The one answer that has a 1/1 chance is God. Why can't people accept that, really, why not?

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k.kslick
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Message 140 of 562 (78501)
01-14-2004 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Chiroptera
01-14-2004 7:46 PM


Chiroptera
I won't even respong to your stupid insults regarding my grade.
You called God "bumbling, foolish, bad-tempered". Where did you get any of those ideas?
I see a car with 3 passengers. Bob here saw the same car, but he only saw one. Are our ideas contradictory? You said the BIBLE contricts itself, I disagree.
This theory, cannot be proven scientificlly.The sciencific method requires that is can be reproduced. Can you reproduce Earth?
God is easier to believe than evolution.

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k.kslick
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Message 148 of 562 (78705)
01-15-2004 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by NosyNed
01-14-2004 10:01 PM


Ok...
Fine, I surrender the oval shaped explosion thing. It's just something I heard. Second-hand info.
[This message has been edited by k.kslick, 01-15-2004]

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k.kslick
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Message 151 of 562 (78775)
01-15-2004 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by :æ:
01-15-2004 7:00 PM


Re: Chiroptera
Ok? So? 98% similiar? how about God made it that way!
Do you have any idea how long I would have to sit here and type .000000000000000000... for it to reach the chances of even a single-celled organism to be created? Then for that organism to evolve, survive, reproduce!?!
God is SO much more likely that evolution. God, allways has, is, and always will be!
consider the following!...!
When asked how he would respond to callers demanding proof that there is a creator, Bob Enyart put it far more concisely than I could have. So I decided to quote him here on the subject.
"Normally we'll start by explaining the laws of science. I'll ask them, 'Do you agree that a rock cannot make itself out of nothing?' They'll agree with that. I say that we can sort of figure that the Universe cannot make itself. Not possible. They will generally agree with that. I'll say, 'Well you just discovered the first law of Thermodynamics, conservation of energy and matter. You can not create or destroy energy. By the laws of the natural Universe that can't happen.'
Then I'll ask them, 'Can a fire burn forever? Like the sun, could it burn forever?' No, it would burn out eventually. Okay, you just discovered the second law of Thermodynamics, energy goes from order to disorder. It becomes useless. Eventually you can't use it. So is there fire burning in the Universe? Yes. All right what does that mean? It wasn't burning forever.
So we've discovered, one, the Universe can't create itself and two, it couldn't have always been here. So what does that leave us with? Only one possible option, that the Universe was created by a supernatural being. The Universe is the natural. Something supernatural, something outside of the Universe created it.
It's amazing, I'll get hardened atheists on the air and go through that step by step and they will, although they don't like it, they are forced to agree with me at each point. And they do on the air end up saying, 'Okay, I'll grant you the Universe was created by a supernatural being.' They end up agreeing with that, and I don't think that's faith. I don't think it's evidence. I think it's proof. I think we have proof that there's a God. You have to be a fool not to know there's a God. That's what God says, 'The fool says in his heart there is no God.' "

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