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fnord
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Message 238 of 562 (112408)
06-02-2004 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by TheNewGuy03
06-01-2004 2:59 PM


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7) Why is it that many life forms complement one another to achieve their goal? For example, a plant processes carbon dioxide through photosynthesis, which expels oxygen into the air for humans and other species to use.
Contrary to popular belief, humans and animals do not need plants and trees for their oxygen. The oxygen we breathe today was formed millions of years ago.
While it is true that during the day plants produce oxygen and consume carbondioxide, the opposite happens at night: they produce CO2 and consume oxygen like we do. Furthermore, when a plant or tree dies, it (usually) rots away. The bacteria use oxygen in that process too. All in all, in its life a plant or tree consumes about as much oxygen as it produces.

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fnord
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Message 252 of 562 (112775)
06-04-2004 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 251 by Ooook!
06-04-2004 10:16 AM


For example, the best rebuttal of the population argument I've seen is in Micheal Shermer's "Why people believe wierd things", where he points out that if you use the same population extrapolation you would end up with Egypt being populated by a ridiculously small population at a time where the historical records clearly show a flourishing civilisation.
Perhaps even better is this "in Bible" argument: suppose the world population grew from 2 to 2 billion at an even rate, then around Moses' time the entire world population would have been a couple of thousand, where the Bible tells us that Moses led 600.000 men ( & women & children) on the exodus. Thus, even according to the Bible the population growth rate hasn't been the same all the time.

Het is even onvoorstelbaar dat God wel bestaat, als dat hij niet zou bestaan - C. Buddingh'

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fnord
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Message 258 of 562 (112806)
06-04-2004 2:35 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by TheNewGuy03
06-04-2004 2:04 PM


Re: humans came into existence
I did a mathematical calculation.
Can you tell me more about that? What were the birth rates you used to begin with? Can you show the calculation that you did with them, and the result you got?
f.

Het is even onvoorstelbaar dat God wel bestaat, als dat hij niet zou bestaan - C. Buddingh'

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fnord
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Message 261 of 562 (112822)
06-04-2004 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by Chiroptera
06-04-2004 3:14 PM


Re: humans came into existence
Your calculations are meaningless unless the numbers you put into it are valid. Can I interpret this statement as meaning you have no figures for population growth before 1700? So how can you assume your calculations have any validity before 1700?
My point too. Even more: population growth follows from population figures, not the other way around.
The main point is, you can not simply take birth rates from the last 300 or even 2000 years and extrapolate them backwards to calculate the world population in 4000 BC.
And btw, who is William Williams?

Het is even onvoorstelbaar dat God wel bestaat, als dat hij niet zou bestaan - C. Buddingh'

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