creation of the heavens
Can you define what you mean by 'heaven'?
Creation is Creation. It includes everything.
Then all creation stories are the same and should be clumped together as well i.e. Mythology, Paganism, Bahá'í Faith, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, Vodou...oh yeah and Christianity. So you see as a whole they seem to contradict each other, and because of that, it all becomes ridiculous at that point.
If the creationist can successfully argue that something in the area of origins required supernatural intervention, then in his mind he has defeated the argument that everything can be or must be explained naturally.
He can argue till he is blue in the face, proof for what he claims to be supernatural must first be established. We argue about evolution and how it works all the time simply because everything looks evolved when you look at the fossil records. Evolution was established by observation first and has since been confirmed through genetics. The supernatural has not been observed but, is in fact the interpretation of a subjective experience from a first person account that then gets passed on to others by simply invoking faith as the catalist. This is not observable proof. This is 'take my word for it, its true'.
They only want scientists to acknowledge that a supernatural explanation is possible (even if it is not science).
Define supernatural without invoking the use of the word God, however, if you HAVE to use the word God then specify which one because I tend to lump all that God mumbo-jumbo togehter.
If you tell a creationist that it is a "fact" that they are cousins to a monkey, I really don't think they will care what definition is being used. They will probably disagree.
Why?
Edited by onifre, : No reason given.
All great truths begin as blasphemies