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kongstad
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Message 8 of 302 (225063)
07-21-2005 7:21 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Tal
07-20-2005 3:36 PM


Also liberals are for personal freedom, and a right to privacy (included in pro-choice, and pro gay), and conservatives are for the governments right to control every aspect of a persons private life (Anti sodomy laws, antichoice, denying religious freedom)
/Soren
This message has been edited by kongstad, 21-Jul-2005 02:21 PM

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kongstad
Member (Idle past 2899 days)
Posts: 175
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Joined: 02-24-2004


Message 10 of 302 (225067)
07-21-2005 8:04 AM
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07-21-2005 7:55 AM


Pro choice is about a human beings medical decisions being between himself, og herself and a doctor. Conservatives want to impose on this, and deny people this.
This is true concerning abortion but also concerning contraceptives. The right to use contraceptives is in danger with a conservative ruled supreme court.
I notice that you did not comment on the conservative fascination with wich opening the penis is inserted into - can you imagine a larger intrusion into peoples private life than having the legislaters decide where you can put your private parts?
/soren

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kongstad
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From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Joined: 02-24-2004


Message 14 of 302 (225098)
07-21-2005 10:25 AM
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07-21-2005 8:48 AM


Oh I'm sorry. so all those gay parents having their children removed, is not because of their choice in sexuality?
Its not because those dangoerous thingies are inserted in orifices that the bible says they should not go?
/Soren

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kongstad
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From: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Message 15 of 302 (225100)
07-21-2005 10:31 AM
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07-21-2005 8:23 AM


You should know that the Griswold decision from 1965 hinged on the fact that a right to privacy was assured by the constitution. That same right forms the basis for Row vs Wade, that the conservatives are trying to overthrow. So if there is no right to privacy, married couples have no right to contraceptives (Griswold), neither does unmarried people(Eisenstadt v. Bair).
Now there allready is one judge on the supreme court who doesn't acknowledge any right to privacy whatsoever (in the constitution), would you guess that to be a liberal or conservative one?
/Soren

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