I have already posted pictures. If you would like, I will gladly host any pictures of rock erosion you believe support your position and post them in a thread for you. Simply drop me an email and I will put them up.

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"Since the Exodus and the story of Moses is part of the Islamic tradition, how could it possibly uphold Jewish Law over Muslem Law?"The Law that God gave the Jews at Mt. Sinai was the TEN COMMANDEMTS (and health laws and civil laws, and ceremonial laws for how to set up the sanctuary and do animal sacrifices, etc., a total of 613 laws I believe) --The TEN COMMANDMENTS contains the 4th Commandment, to "keep the Sabbath holy" which is the 7th day -- Saturday!In case you haven't noticed, the Moslems keep Friday holy!Accordingly, there are BIG differences in the Law of God as given to the Jews at Mt. Sinai, and the re-edited version of the "law" that the Moslems follow.I guess you weren't aware of this?The Jews could claim spiritual superiority over the Arabs if Mt. Sinai was ever documented and proven as historical fact! Back when the Israelis had possession of the Sinai Penninsula, they investigated the St. Catherine site and concluded (properly) that there was NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER at the site to prove it really was Mt. Sinai, so they made no effort to maintain ownership of it --But that might change if they knew that Jebel el Lawz was really the Mountain of God!This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-07-2004 11:54 AMThis message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-07-2004 12:00 PM

jar, how about just posting the instructions of how to post pics on the forum so I can do it myself?Maybe some of the others would also like to know how to do it.

Why do you resort to name calling when others don't believe you or simply ask for corroboration?Others have asked for a list of your evidence...you answer with a pop-sci video and book.Others mention that pop-sci books and videos are not evidence in and of themselves...you answer with irrelevant issues about the Nobel Prize.Others have tried to explain the scientific method to you and have asked how your assertions follow this methodology...you answer with name calling.Others have asked what evidence is in Wyatt's museum...you answer with go and see.Others have asked what further tests have been done on the supposed evidence...you answer with name calling because the evidence is in Saudi territory and no one can get to it.If the answer to every question on this forum is found in a book or video somewhere then what is this forum for?? No one is here to debate a book, or debate a video. Your side is the one that brought up this video. Others ask for further evidence and are met with accusations of bias, name calling and arguments from authority...and somehow we're the dumb ones.Why can't you admit that what you might have is some interesting ideas with some observations that need more testing but it is difficult to do the further testing because of political issues.What you do not have is evidence of anything. Others have been trying for over 60 pages to tell you what evidence is and what needs to be done for your finds and observations to be considered evidence and you do not listen...and we're the dumb ones....Please refrain from the name calling until you can answer even one of the questions put to you...

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Again, shell game and misdirection. There is nothing that says what day of a week the sabbath is. Christians, for example, choose Sunday.I guess you weren't aware of this? Since the story of Moses and the Ten Commandments is part of Islamic traditions just as with Jews or Christians, how could "The Jews could claim superiority over the Arabs if Mt. Sinai was ever documented and proven as historical fact!"Proving the story of Exodus proves it for Jews, Muslims and Christians alike.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

http://EvC Forum: Assistance w/ Forum Formatting for the second time....HOW TO POST PICTURES

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To post pictures they must be hosted at a site that will be available. They should be scaled to no more than 640x480 to display well. Once they are hosted they can be display using either html or UBB code. The directions are hot linked to the right of the text entry field whenever you reply. Click on either HTML is on or UBB code is on for directions.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

"Proving the story of Exodus proves it for Jews, Muslims and Christians alike."That's a very level-headed, "Americanized" responce --Now let's see you apply for a permit to go into Saudi Arabia and take archaeologists to Jebel el Lawz!GOOD LUCK, 'CAUSE IT WON'T HAPPEN!

Again, shell game and misdirection.

So far you have provided no real reason for there to be any further investigation.Perhaps, if you could support any of the findings or show their significance, there might be some incentive for others to persue such investigation.But Jim, for anyone to try to follow up, there needs to be some reason to proceed. Sho far, none of the supporters of the video have provided any evidence connecting anything with the Exodus. In addition, you good folk have not responded to any of the issues raised. None of the issues.Perhaps you can find time to respond to my questions regarding the glyphs since of all the evidence you have mentioned, they are the most likely to be able to be connected to either a particular time period or event?

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"There is nothing that says what day of a week the sabbath is. Christians, for example, choose Sunday..."The 7th day Sabbath has been known for thousands of years, ever since the Hebrews were at Mt. Sinai!God told them not to work on the 7th day -- and when the manna fell, a double-portion fell on the day before the Sabbath day! Nothing fell on the 7th day -- so the Jews KNEW which 7th day was the Sabbath day, and they have know which day is the 7th day ever since then --When Jesus came and lived on the earth for 33 years, he keep around 1700 7th day Sabbaths! His actions verified that the 7th day was the correct 7th day, he never told them that they were worshipping on the wrong 7th day -- and in fact, that is where we get the distinction of the "week," it's a period of 7 days that comes from only one place, God having blessed and sanctified the 7th day!Regarding Christians worshipping on Sunday, the reason for that is when Christianity spread into the Roman Empire, those people HATED the Jews and the early bishops in the 5th and 6th centuries hated looking like they were just "2nd generation Jewish holy men," so the early pagan Roman church opted to merge sun worship and the idea of Jesus being resurrected on a Sunday morning -- the Emperor Constantine passed the first of a series of sun-day laws in 321 AD, and that is why most of today's Christians worship on Sunday. That is how they stopped people from worshipping on Saturday, and moved it over to Sunday -- they passed laws and would lock you up or kill you if you didn't go along with them!I am a Seventh-day Adventist, and we prefer to worship on the day the Bible said was holy, Saturday, the 7th day of the week. But that's not the topic here --This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-07-2004 12:26 PM

Charles,I would love to go and answer your questions in detail. I'm at peace, because I know there are straight forward answers for everyone of them. However, I have a whole bunch of other pending projects at the moment, and at the same time, I kind of feel intimidated by your demands. I pesonally don't feel it necessary go answer all those questions, when they have virtually all been thoroughly answered on websites--especially the 10 part Newsletter that gives you the whole chronology from beginning to end, with every lab test, with every statement made by many experts, etc. etc.It isn't going to be easy convincing me or motivating me to feel that there is a dire need for me to respond to your questions.

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Who was addressing you? you seem to have what our european chums called a "big neck".

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I know this may seem like a rather basic and stupid question, but have there really been chariot wheels discovered in the Red Sea?

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I appreciate your open question. I wish some of the other's on this board would conduct a similar spirit. The answer to your questin is, yes, we believe we have sufficient evedence. From beginning to end, I believe there has been a total of 15 pictures of chariot parts and wheels. Half of those are clearly identifiable as "chariot wheels", the other half are odd-shaped "twisted wreckage". Other than that, I underwater photos of human bones, horse bones, and cattle bones.Seeing that you are new, I understand how difficult it must be to go back through the different threads and locate all the posts with photos and discussions regarding the evidence.However, for your sake, sometime between today and tomorrow night, I will go throughout this forum identifying each post with the data and photos you've missed out on, and link them for you in this thread. How's that?Keep up your openminded attitude...I guarantee you...it will get you far in life There is SOO much out there!

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Yikes!! I just discovered late yesterday that this continuation thread is up. I didn't think to check before that because the Admin had indicated that the whole topic should take a rest.Anyway, I'll try to address some things here sometime after this weekend, or whenever I get the chance.

I don't think I need to speak with you anymore, jar.You're extremely ignorant of the reality of the situation of dealing with the Saudis, and if you can't understand these simple truths, then I am totally wasting my time talking with you.Go to Hell, jar.BTW, that's a biblical statement --