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Author Topic:   What if Satan reformed?
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Message 95 of 234 (349279)
09-15-2006 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by NosyNed
09-15-2006 10:45 AM


Re: God the Monster
If I were defining God from the persepective of dirt, then I would call Him a psychopath to, but I see Him as an heir, so I will be humble in my place. Blasphemy is forgivable as sin or evil anyway as well to those that are the elect. I didn't write it, God did. Nor did I make the rules.
I simply state that RevDG is not on target if he wants to cut Rom 9, Mal, and Psa 139 out of the Bible. And it seems to me the whole NT is for the dirt in us that cannot distinguish God even when He does daily miracles. Thus there has to be an ordered plan that is followed or we would all jump off a cliff or at least end up on Dateline as a pervert or something that would lead us to incarceration. And Satan heads that division. I might add that I believe my ex wife appears to be a general in Satan's army. hehe.
Now if all conforms to some type of plan and could be "like" a computer program, then God may reveal to the elect that there is no consequence to those that are not of the elect because they can be erased and had no bearing in the first place. How do you cry for someone who was a Hollowdeck program (borrowed from Star Trek)? And for those that are the elect, they are in a learning mode while in an earth suit. Did your mom tell you not to touch something hot and you obeyed every time? Or did you have to learn about hot stoves by experience? And if we do not disipline our children then they will grow up to be Hitlers or Husseins? What you call a tyrant, I call a good Dad.

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Message 96 of 234 (349283)
09-15-2006 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by iano
09-15-2006 10:59 AM


Re: The Gospel of Grace Necessitates the Devil
iano, the purpose of the elect speaking from the housetops (mat 10:27) is to exercise their faith. It is a blessing or a lesson that leads to progress or wealth in spiritual terms. And it simply is the vehicle that God has chosen for the elect to be drawn from their lives in sin. In that sense an evangelist that goes to the north pole to find Santa Claus or even the penguins and speak the Word to them is as important as a missionary heading up the Amazon to find cannibals that have not heard the Word. God plans every day of our lives and how much we exercise or faith, our lies, or our lack therof.
I didn't make the plan. But pieces have been revealed to me by exercising my faith. And when I see the fact that the Israelites missed Jesus because they couldn't get past the law which stated that a man hanging from a tree had to be cursed. And when the gentiles couldn't see past acts of faith like baby talk (speaking in tongues) then there appears to be a narrow window for the elect to fit through. But if you read the Word and ask to see, there is rest in the sillyness.
If I have no fear of death and I believe God has planeed everyday of my life and that I am an heir to the greatest riches in the universe, I can come pretty close to walking on water And if I wasn't so busy treading water, I probably could actually do it. But we get so caught up in stupid stuff we don't know how to really get out there in faith. But then that has to be planned as well.

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Message 101 of 234 (349459)
09-15-2006 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by ringo
09-14-2006 6:46 PM


Re: The Gospel of Grace Necessitates the Devil
Ringo,
Here goes (at the risk of being off topic but trying to get on topic)
The reason pieces of creation are thrown in the fire is because God hates Satan and Satan is the sanitation director. And that makes sense when an upgrade is in order. Now there may be those out there that are still operating on DOS, I would bet that there aren't many Commodore 64's out there in operation.
As for making code that is opposed to the program, I am guessing that there is a great need for virus detection software companies to employ individuals to create viruses. And I am not suggesting that they do, but that a potential exists in the need that is created by having a virus and the antivirus. So if there is a Christ and an antichrist God somehow gets exalted out of the gray area. It it was an on/off switch it would be too easy. In reality God is making heirs out of dirt and however He accomplishes that is pretty cool.
Cntrl+Alt+Delete is pretty much death burial and resurrection. Can I borrow that?
God has ultimate power and authority. He created satan to be extinguished and that will go forward as planned. I am not promoting Benny Hinn, but he wrote something that is a good analogy between God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit that goes something like this. God has an idea to turn on the light. Jesus flips the switch and the Holy Spirit is the current that lights the bulb.
God sticks to His plan. Otherwise we would all be in trouble and He wouldn't be the truth. In which case Satan could repent and people or even angels could be added to the book of life. But then the entire Word would be useless as God could undo his covenants. That would not be a good thing in light of how He feels about fleshly beings.

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Message 106 of 234 (350034)
09-18-2006 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by ringo
09-18-2006 2:23 AM


Re: The Gospel of Grace Necessitates the Devil
Ok I'll bite Ringo. If Satan reformed and you were there to witness it, you had better put on you sun screen. Presume you are living a lie and are bound in hell like Satan since the only way Satan can repent is by lying about it.

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Message 108 of 234 (350080)
09-18-2006 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by ringo
09-18-2006 6:12 PM


Re: The Gospel of Grace Necessitates the Devil
Ok. Satan has reformed and is preaching how great the heating system is. If you look across the gulf to Paradise you will either see people like Abraham waiting or they are gone. If they are gone, then they will not be back. And if your leader (notice I said your leader hehe but we can fix that) disappears it is because he was called to perform a duty.
I guess the other thing we should look out for if you are lying and Satan repented as your lie. Perhaps you are dreaming. Now might be a good time to ask Jesus into your heart because it doesn't sound like you are prepared to do so when you are awake . Or perhaps you should pinch yourself and try to wake up because if you don't.....

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Message 110 of 234 (350086)
09-18-2006 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by ringo
09-18-2006 6:30 PM


Re: The Gospel of Grace Necessitates the Devil
1 no
2 evil will disappear anyway the point is mute
3 I can't discern between lying and truthful spirits. That is a problem of the flesh and doesn't go away until all evil is extinguished which God intends to do any way. So this point is moot.
4 I would not get the memo because of 1
And everything is tied to the topic. The problem is that the premise is that a lie can be something other then a lie. And that premise is false.

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Message 116 of 234 (350620)
09-20-2006 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by ReverendDG
09-20-2006 8:23 AM


Re: The Gospel of Grace Necessitates the Devil

view, you need to try to stay somewhat close to the topic and stop inserting absolutely unimportant extraneous nonsense. Content hidden.


Rev,
What are you a rev of??? If you are going to cut Paul from the Bible, don't stop there. You will have to cut the one Jesus loved who said God so loved the "world" but then quantified it stating in "red text" I pray not for the world, but for whom my Father has sent. Ouch, now you are going to have to cut JC out of the Bible too. God is not powerless to act, he simply did not choose to. His basic premise holds that He will have grace upon whom he will have grace. And maybe we are just moths in the light, but my faith is in the life to come based upon those vessels in whom God has chosen to put His life and will extinguish all else after tormenting it. Now maybe that is not your God and your definition of love, but I don't want to follow you. And if I am going to follow a book, I guess I will start with the one that has been the most popular in history.
I can't see where we can stay on the topic here. I guess it all centers on whether the Word is truth. And the Word says that all my days were programmed before formed Psa 139 and that I was made a little lower then the angels Heb 2:7.
Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

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Message 117 of 234 (350719)
09-20-2006 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by viewfromthetop
09-20-2006 8:51 AM


Re: The Gospel of Grace Necessitates the Devil
hmmm. Don't know if I will get censored but will try to stay on topic. I have a question to add and perhaps some empirical evidence. How do we know that Satan hasn't already repented and that we are living in hell? If the elected believers are already gone then we may never know. And since Satan is a spirit he may have repented and left and the rest here is just chaos. My empirical evidence would suggest that if the Rev is a Rev of God and wants to cut Paul out of the Bible then our truth must be questioned. Cuz if you cut Paul out of the Bible to accept Satan, then you will also have to cut out John and JC out as well. Hope this is close enough or perhaps we need a new topic.

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Message 119 of 234 (350787)
09-20-2006 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by ringo
09-20-2006 6:10 PM


Re: The Gospel of Grace Necessitates the Devil
The evidence is in the Rev suggesting that we cut Paul out of the Bible. The epistles predict the behavior of not following scripture calling in some godliness in 2 Tim, but since Paul is not hear and believed the second coming is eminent, we could all be living a lie. In which case Satan may have already repented and that is why the chaos abounds.
Thus a man wanting to cut the Bible into pieces is evidence that we are in end times or past end times. But then I don't know if he professes to be a Rev of God. I am afraid this topic doesn't go anywhere and will not produce fruit.

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