What if Satan reformed?

pah phat you should know better! satan is not lucifer, its a mis-translation of the name for venus in the kjv

that makes no sense at all, god has no control over satan? didn't he create satan, i thought he was all powerful and could do anything?
and if god has created us for one group or another then we are doomed before we even get a shot at heaven? what kind of god is that that would do such a terrible thing, i thought he loved us?
this god you have is a monster worse than satan ever could be, with his picking and choosing who gets elected to go to heaven without a trial, this isn't even biblical! jesus even says we will be tried on our conduct in life! [/qs]So the Holy Spirit has to intervene on the will of the elect to make sure they are dragged to God. Then they become heirs.[/qs] that doesn't make any sense at all, you controdict yourself! if god decided who would go and who would not before god even created anything theres no point in the holy spirit doing anything if we already are meant for heaven so which is it? are we blessed before god even made us or are we damned if the holy spirit doesn't intervene?
you can't have it both ways you know, pick one

i find it ironic that the idea of lucifer being another name for satan comical considering that its non biblical, milton and dante infuenced this absurd belief
Lucifer - Wikipediafrom wiki, many non-canon texts also influenced this belief like enoch and adam and eve 1 and 2 helel = morning-star=lucifer
ben-shahar=god of the morn=son-of-the-morningringo you should knoww better than to forget the context from above it if you read the whole thing it even says its about the king of babylonia
only people wanting to believe this satan=lucifer nonsense, ignore all the stuff that says its not talking about satan but about a king claiming to be the son of a god, sounds kind of ironic to me..plus its funny its the only line they use every other useage is not: the translaters of the kjv changed it to morning but kept the line in isiah Edited by ReverendDG, : No reason given.

sorry lol, i was feeling odd that time or i wouldn't have posted that must stuff

i would cut pauls writtings from the bible if it would mean that people would condemm others less and love others more.
as for esau, he was an idiot and let himself fall to his own folly, he represented anyone israel hated, so his existence is questionable because revelations hold such authority that the churchs took nearly 500 years to decide it was inspired by god? his plan? i don't think you have a clue what god is planning, this is you parroting what you have been told by your "church" yes and this shows god is a heartless bastard that picks who should go to a place to be with him and those who go to hell to burn, this is the sign of a loving god?no this sounds like the lies of the very creature you claim is prince of this world. if god loves us so much wheres his mercy?, where shit love? i don't see it

if your petty whiney god requires that i ask for forgiveness for calling him a monster i don't want him. the god i worship is a god of streight that can take a few punchs and still love me.

your god is so powerless that he can't even see into his own creations heart?
he created satan didn't he? why wouldn't he be able to know the truth?by the way if satan repented god would forgive him, unless there truely is a limit to gods love?

well i have to say, i've never had someone misunderstand my posts this badly before.if you truely are this shaken by my view on paul, maybe you need to look into what you believe, paul or jesus?

Stop this. Head back towards the topic. It is "What if Satan reformed?"

Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.