Adam was created on the 3rd day

i am replying to the first post in this thread.Gen 2:4 states how this chapter will start to talk about the generations of the world. when this says "in the day" it is talking about when God put Adam in the garden. check it"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, and ever plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."thats an entire sentence. this is like me saying:"i go to my friends house to hang out, when i went there we started off playing DBZ Budokai, then we ate his moms cooking, then we played some more and finally we went to bed."you see how the first thing i said summarized my entire sentence? well if we look at the chapter in the bible that part summarized the topic of the chapter! keep in mind again that there were no punctuation marks in the hebrew text so it really should say this"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created in the day the Lord God made the earth and the heavens and ever plant of the field before it was in the earth and every herb of the field before it grew for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth and there was not a man to till the ground"now your an english major lets say, and you need to fix this sentence, without being picky where would you put periods and commas? probably a colon after the first "created" then that would mean that what follows is talking about what happens on earth after teh creation. hm?

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"There was no plants yet (for there was no rain) and no man. Basicly all there was was the sold ground."

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how could there be no plants when God clearly says that AND EVERY PLANT OF THE FIELD BEFORE IT WAS IN THE EARTH? just because it didnt rain doesnt mean there was no plants, the mist that came FROM The ground made the plants water. it wasnt only solid ground because God divided the waters, meaning there was WATER and LAND mixed together.

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After the rain, the first thing God did was create flesh man (of the earth). This was before any plants were created.

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it didnt rain, rain doesnt come from the earth it comes from the sky.
and no plants were already created as says verse 2:5

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Here we have the first vegetation on the earth, planted in the garden of Eden. Next the man is placed in the Garden.

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*buzzing sound* wrong again, god planted the garden of EDEN, only the garden, he had already created the earth with plants and animals THEN he made the garden of EDEN, an isolated incident on earth. its not the first vegetation, its the LAST basically cuz God made everything THEN the gardenthere were no contradictions to begin with you made more contradictions lolheres how the real order goes1. Heaven and Earth formed
2. LIGHT was created (different from sunlight)
3. divided darkness from light (darkness not created, very important point)
4. Day and night made: FIRST DAY finished
5. Divided waters from the sky (now two sets of waters)
6. SECOND DAY finished
7. brought dry land from the water up and land appeared with the waters BELOW the firmament
8. Grass, Herbs, trees created
9. THIRD DAY finished
10. Created the Sun and the Moon and the stars (after earth was created, completely different than astronomical evidence)
11. FOURTH DAY finished
12. water dwelled creatures created, birds in the sky were created.
13. FIFTH DAY finished
14. Cattle, creeping things, beasts of the earth, land dwellers created.
15 Man was created (Adam). Then created Eve (Genesis one is about creation not the troubles in the Garden of Eden)
16. SIXTH DAY finished
17. God rests and puts Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.Genesis 2 recaps the creation in a sentence and explains the drama in the Garden of Eden.

very good point. how did Moses see God? the burning bush doesnt count because God isnt a bush. how did Aaron see God?please explain to me every account that saw God, his ACTUAL form, not something that spoke to them through God.

lol i know, but what did John mean when he said "no one hath seen God"? did he mean in his ACTUAL heavenly form or in a form of divination? like a burning bush, or a lion, or whatever. i am merely asking a question, i DONT doubt what it says, i just want more understanding thats all, lets not get hasty and jump to conclusions. i am a YEC, and i believe the Bible to be completely accurate and teh complete breath of God.i believe John meant the actual form of God, his real form not him talking to a person THROUGH an object or person or animal.if you speak to me through the phone, i am not the phone. thats my point. its not false that John said No one has seen God at any time besides Jesus himself.

what did he literally mean? spirit? dialogue? what? i guess you just answered that tho lol God by definition cannot be near sin correct? that is why he sent his son down to earth to die for us....so then how would God in his true form be with man?please give me verses of those people who say God face to face, fought with him, and argued with him and at lunch with him

*shock* ROFL uh....okay

ok like i said Genesis one is the creation! only, Genesis 2 has one sentence in the beginning recap THEN it speaks about the drama in the garden of Eden.genesis 2 does not have a SECOND creation going on. there is no second set he only made them all once, and then in the garden of eden he BROUGHT them out of the ground IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN ONLY for Adam to name. why do you think it says "in the garden of eden" and not IN THE ENTIRE WORLD? it does not say, it says God made all animals and plants ONCE, then in the garden of eden (after everything was made) God put man in there, the garden of eden didnt have anything in there! God put man in there then brought forth all the plants and animals for adam to name!there is no alternate creation, it is the continuation of genesis 1. God made the world, plants, then animals then created man THEN created the garden of EDEN, not the world AGAIN if you talking about making man twice as in Adam then Eve, then you are correct. but never did he do two adams and two eves lolwoah! ive never heard this idea before, but then who is this SECOND man? ADAM is the first ever man, the entire bible will agree to this, so then tell me who this other man is?i think i know where you got confused, ok Genesis one is ONLY speaking about all of creation all 7 days in complete. on the 6th day he created man and woman right? then the chapter goes on not worried about the details about Eve's sin YET and finished off the chapter with the 7 days. THATS all chapter one does, is explain the chronology of the creation NOT the drama in Eden. THEN in chapter 2 it explains the creation of MAN in detail, genesis 2 STILL takes place on day 6! basically it went backward just a tad to explain in detail about the creation of MAN because MAN is dominated over everything and thus is more important.so...Genesis1: Explanation of The Creation in a whole
Genesis2: Explanation of MANS creation in the whole, not worried about the rest of the world at the moment. that meerely explains God made Adam then he also created Eve, not the SAME exact Adam. key word is "another" meaning God created both Man and Woman from dust and both are capable to honor and dishonor. this has nothign to do with physical creation but your acceptance of salvation makes you a NEW MAN, the old man(without god) is decietful and evil and the new man(with god) is riteousness and holy. ok this was a little complicated, but i think i can manage. i dont understand the part "the last Adam was made a quickening spirit"i THINK this verse is talking about the first man being Adam and the second man being Jesusthe second part i understand even though we are borne on earth and look like earthlings we ALSO look like God in looks not powers. God made us in his own image so thats why we would have the image of the heavenly.ok i FINALLY got that one sentence down this means that you start off as natural then become spiritual (through death) no where in that verse does it mention Adam at all, you inserted Adam where you wanted, and this verse means accepting christ as your savior, being Born again, being saved, being cleansed of your sins.has nothign to do with the PHYSICAL man. you completely took out all those verses of their contexts and created it into what you want. none of those were even talking about PHYSICAL man form. the first ADAM is you right now, the sinful person born of this world that has the ADAMIC sin. the SECOND adam is not a physical being, its YOU when you have accepted Christ as your savior and have been saved by Christ when he died on the cross for YOUR sins. THEN you have become the second adam.nowhere in gen1 does it say "Adam was created of the earthly" even in Gen2 it says that Adam was created out of dirt! you my friend are calling God a liar when he clearly stats that he created all seed bearing plants (in Gen1). and plus what makes you think the plants he created werent FULLY GROWN to begin with? the fully grown ones dont need water for a little bit, but look the second after God brings forth water to water the plants how nice eh?have you forgotten what Genesis 1:11 says? "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding SEED, and the fruit TREE yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itslef, upin the earth: and it was so"you see that there was TREES created before Adam and Eve were created.there were TREES and SEEDS both there. one was created fully grown and one was created with only seeds! he didnt CREATE them again he brought them out of the ground JUST for the garden of eden, it was exclusively for the garden of eden AFTER the rest of the world was already created. and it even says god PUT man into the garden of eden, where did he put him from? exactly, the world was already made and God MOVED Adam into the garden of eden and brought forth the animals and plants INTO The garden of eden JUST for the garden of eden for Adam to name etc.Edited by Juraikken, : No reason given.

impossible a woman cannot bear two sons in a DAY
if you are on the gap theory then that also fails, if a day doesnt mean a literal day then plants die before the sun comes up same man, what makes you think its another? 7 days of moses? what? ok woah! you have completely misunderstood the "in the day" part in all of genesis. the sentence structure is completely different than that which you say it is. in the day that God created man....it goes on to explain what that man was made like "in the likeness of God made he him" then it goes on to detail "male and female created he tem; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created." thats in teh day tehy were created, its not like one day equals to hundreds of years, the gap theory doesnt work.... they are both the same person, Adam only one. that helps ME a lot, "and he called their name Adam.." they meaning Adam and Eve.Edited by AdminPD, : Fixed quote box.

no they were not hibernating, but its odd tho if its the act of creation they why is everything happening ONLY in teh garden of Eden? what happened to the rest of the word? god put Adam in the garden of eden and out of the ground formed the animals ONLY FOR THE GARDEN OF EDEN!!!!!!!!!!! the entire world was alredy filled up with animals except for the garden of edenyour order doesnt work, when it already says "nd every plant of the field before it was in the earth" then you talk about Adam being made and then again "Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."if i never read the current bible and read your version, i would say somethings amiss because it looks like God is speaking in a different way here when you start talking about creation of man, than he did with the earlier versesso basically he formed, man, woman, grass, animals, and the garden of eden all in one day? hmm good division seeing as how it takes one day to divide teh firmament from the waters....wait wait wait, adam went a day without sunlight? what the heck? how could any tree be pleasing to the eye if he cant even see past his nose?very well done, but it has quarks it just doesnt fit.i can just as well make one too:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.13And the evening and the morning were the third day.14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.that can sound just as good, but i never used chapter 2, you dont need chapter 2 to explain creation.ANYONE can rearrange creation to make it seem great, i can even rearrange it 10 more different ways and it would look good, but would it be real? i could even say the sun was creatd first then humans, then animals then plants.... cannot be, because Christ was already created long before creation "in teh beginning was the word and the word was God" they are both the same man, Christ is never part of this and CHRIST IS NOT MAN, CHRIST IS GOD, so thats complete blasphemy to say THE SECOND ADAM IS JESUS. cuz you cannot classify Jesus as man first you tell me the second vessel IS Christ and nwo you tell me they are born again people IN christ? christ was not created on the 6th day then that means "in the begining was the Word and the Wrod was God" its not true.do you not believe in Trinity? Father, Son, Holy Ghost? if the trinity is true then all three of them SHOULD be there are the SAME time,"Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"if trinity doesnt count then who is US? Jesus is already there from the beginning! US meaning (Father, Son, Holy Ghost)so does that mean that They make Jesus again? but you cant make another Jesus! he was already THERE with God even before the beginning of the world, there is no second Adam, both accounts are about ONE Adam its a lovely way of explaining salvation BUT, it has nothing to do with creation lol