Boy shuns Pledge of Allegiance for Gay Rights

iano writes:....Whilst I think it is damaging for society and I would prefer that society not be damaged so.....

Let me lay it out as linearly as I can - given your problems with iano-speak1) Lets suppose a child has the right to be brought up by it's biological parents.2) Let's suppose the State accepts that it cannot micro-manage things so as to guarantee this right, but that it can and does take certain actions which tend towards promoting these rights.3) Whilst permitting gay couples to adopt orphans cannot be directly linked to a dissolution of the aim of 2) above (the orphan can't be raised by it's biological parents), it forms a Rrhain-like toe in the door. If gays were permitted to adopt orphans, then it's a short push of the toe to ensure gays can adopt full stop. Which has a direct link to dissolution of 2) above. Does the States refusal to permit this mean gays are prevented from co-habiting and raising one or others kids? No. But like I say, the State's job isn't 'micro-manage to guarantee'. The States job is to takes what steps it can to support a desired outcome.

Fair enough. Somehow I can't see why his being adopted could be much hindered were it that gay couples were not permitted to adopt.

If a gay couple is permitted to adopt an orphan, is there any reason to refuse them permission to adopt a non-orphan?

In promoting surrogacy, you are dissolving the right of a child to be raised by its biological parents.

That I translate a rational into humanistic-sounding terms such as "the rights of a child to be raised by it's biological parents" doesn't alter the substance of my believing that such was Gods intention in his establishing the family unit and that the rights being invoked for the child here are, ultimately, God given.

Chevy Chase writes:Jane, you ignorant slut.

You can't have gays married with the current definition of marriage.

marriage[ mrrij ]marriages PluralNOUN
1. legal relationship between spouses: a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners
2. specific marriage relationship: a married relationship between two people, or a somebody's relationship with his or her spouse
"They have a happy marriage."
3. joining in wedlock: the joining together in wedlock of two people
4. marriage ceremony: the ceremony in which two people are joined together formally in wedlock
5. union of two things: a close union, blend, or mixture of two things
"Civilization is based on the marriage of tradition and innovation."
6. card games king and queen of same suit: in card games such as pinochle and bezique, a combination of the king and queen of the same suit
[ 13th century. < French mariage < marier (see marry) ]

But the law is not treating anyone differently, it applies equally to all.

CS writes:They specifically outlawed certain marriages based on race

hooah212002's reinterpretation writes:They specifically outlawed certain marriages based on sexual orientation

She went full-fledged lesbian. Its apparent to me that poeple's sexual orientation can change.

I knew a girl in highschool who dumped my good friend and became a lesbian. She moved in with her girlfriend and they we're in love and the whole deal. Now she's married to some other guy and has 2 kids.

Straight people are not allowed to marry people the same sex either...

Brian Feldman and Hannah Miller, two Orlando-area residents and complete strangers, were married last Friday. Feldman, a performance artist, put out a call to any ladies who wanted to take part in the project on Facebook. Three showed up, and he spun a water bottle to decide which one with which he would enter into holy matrimony.