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xongsmith
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Message 23 of 234 (536732)
11-24-2009 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by onifre
11-24-2009 4:32 PM


Re: Civil Chaos for all!
Marriage.
It's real easy for a man & a woman to get married - they can do it in Las Vegas in 2 minutes. Getting divorced, on the other hand, is another thing altogether.
Ladies & Gentlemen - let me introduce to you to the Entropic View of Marriage.
Thermodynamics tells us that entropy has to increase overall (local exceptions of course!).
Consider a classic example:
A building - building the building takes a long and convoluted time of getting all manner of things to be in the right place, paper-wise & materials-wise.
Destroying the building takes a few of those same permits and hoop jumping to get the permission to do so, but it takes only a few seconds to destroy the building.
By the Law Of Entropy, being Divorced is a more Orderly state of affairs than being married. Getting Married is like destroying a building. Getting divorced is like building one.
Notice how the only vocational category giving broad support to gay marriage comes from the Divorce Lawyers.
*COMEDY ENDS HERE*
I agree with Onifre - fuck the churches on this. I also agree with the sentiments voiced underneath the comments made by Taz. And I also agree with a lot of what Hyroglyphics has to say on this matter.
then there is another thing altogether....
OKAY - what about a farmer who wants to marry one of his sheep? With full legal status?
We all go NO, right? okay......
What about the genetic scientist in the future who has been breeding chimpanzees with humans and then later has a son who wants to marry one of these hybrids?
Watch us all go OOGE with a brick on our head bone.*
What about a man who takes a wife in a society that religiously requires that the female offspring to be circumcised...mutilated beyond being able to enjoy sex? What about those weird fringe religions right here in this United States I am in (you UK dudes may know of them).
There are a whole shitload of issues, but the gay marriage issue - to me - is safely well inside the Venn Diagram circle of what I will have no problem with. My problem is that I dont even know where to draw those other circles! Well - yeah, the sheep - no way.
And also, isnt "wife" a derogatory term? The sexism of the dominant males completely pervades the culture to the extent that even the language is nothing more than a method to maintain the status quo. Like I say, the lawyers are the only group.....
* 106 brownie points to the one who can reference this (RAZD disqualified from playing)

- xongsmith

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xongsmith
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Message 101 of 234 (537186)
11-27-2009 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Rrhain
11-27-2009 10:52 AM


Rrhain out of control!
Irrelevant. As I said in my original response, it doesn't matter that he's trying to put the words into someone else's mouth. He cannot speak for them, only for himself.
Dont be an ass, Rrhain. He carefully said others feel that strongly, and he did not. Sometimes I wonder about you.
And since he has complete control over his own posts, then the comparison of gays to rapists is completely his. Nobody was confused over the concept of people who don't think being gay is a holy or respected trait to have. He's the only one who mentioned rape.
NosyNed quote:I usually agree with you but in this case I think you owe an apology.
Nope.
If he didn't mean to compare gays to rapists, he shouldn't have done it.
He did not do the comparison and you are not dumb enough not to know it.
You owe Hyro and now Nosy an apology.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 107 of 234 (537438)
11-28-2009 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Rrhain
11-27-2009 6:33 PM


Rrhain pontificates:
Not until he can show he is capable of discussing gay people without including any smearing commentary, no matter the source.
This is Off Topic. If you want to discuss Smearing Commentary, start your own thread.
We KNEAUX you want to secretly get into Smearing Commentary, since you are the first one to bring it up here.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 178 of 234 (542671)
01-11-2010 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by iano
12-04-2009 12:46 PM


Re: Adoption Market: Confused?
Iano struggles under a barrage:
Let me repeat the basic position:
- if gay couples are permitted to adopt orphans, they will naturally be allowed to adopt children produced by one half of the couple.
- permitting this promotes & supports a "market response" to the demand of gay couples to have own-produced children. "Own" in the sense that one of the couple would be a biological parent and the other of the couple (who will want to adopt the child) not a biological parent.
- such family units circumvent, by design, the rights of a child in regard it being raised by it's biological parents.
I'm thinking someday of a lesbian couple who decide to get artificially inseminated by the same anonymous donor on the same day and through a colossal stroke of luck land in the delivery room on the same hour of the same day, side by side in beds gripping each others arms and eating ice chips, screaming out at each other, both delivering 2 beautiful children at the same time. Wow! What a lovefest!

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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