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Larni
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Message 119 of 234 (537814)
12-01-2009 4:30 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by iano
11-30-2009 5:24 AM


Re: Civil Unions for all!
If gays were permitted to adopt orphans, then it's a short push of the toe to ensure gays can adopt full stop. Which has a direct link to dissolution of 2) above. Does the States refusal to permit this mean gays are prevented from co-habiting and raising one or others kids? No. But like I say, the State's job isn't 'micro-manage to guarantee'. The States job is to takes what steps it can to support a desired outcome.
My mum is gay and she and her partner foster children and do a pretty good job.
Not letter gays foster or adopt only serves to cut down the number of people who can foster or adopt children in need.
I can't see why someone sexual polarity should have any bearing on how well the kids turn out.
Having a gay mum never did me any haaarrrmmmmmmmmmmmmm, er sorry
State approval and support for some outcomes necessarily mean lack of State support and approval for other outcomes.
What makes youy think this is true? How will straight couples be inconvenienced by gay couples?
Rrhain writes:
And you'd be wrong. Gay people tend to take in the children nobody wants. The typical straight couple want the perfect, white infant. Gay couples are much more likely to take in children who are difficult to place.
My mum fosters people with learning and behavioural difficulties and part of the reason is because few other people will and they really need a stable home.
Which leads to the market fulfilling that demand - which leads to a structural situation in which children are produced specifically for gay (couples) meaning the right listed above is abandoned by design.
That is not true. If it was true it would have already happened with straight couples: has it?
Please provide evidence for this claim or withdraw it.
Edited by Larni, : second point
Edited by Larni, : second pint
Edited by Larni, : third point and psellnig

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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 121 of 234 (537819)
12-01-2009 4:53 AM
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12-01-2009 4:40 AM


Re: Civil Unions for all!
So your arguement against letting gays adopt is that they'll eventually adopt all the children and then there'll naturally be some sort of black market where children are bred just for the gays to parent? What is the weather like, up your own ass?
Why you sonofab...
edit: lol

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Larni
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Message 132 of 234 (537859)
12-01-2009 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by iano
12-01-2009 5:16 AM


Re: Childrens rights
The point was that support for the right of a child to be raised by it's biological parents necessitates lack of support for (what might be considered by some others as rights) that which opposes childrens rights.
As long as you are raised by someone who loves you what matter that you are biologically the child to your primary care giver?
For several years I was raised by my grand parents; is that wrong?
You've heard of a surrogate parent haven't you? Such a facility dissolves the right of a child to be raised by it's biological parents doesn't it? I'm supposing the same to happen with gay couples only in this case we're looking at an even more structural dissolution of childrens rights.
Iano, what difference does it make if a gay couple or straight couple adopt and bring up a child to adulthood?
What posible difference?

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