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Author Topic:   Science, Religion, God – Let’s just be honest
jar
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Message 64 of 174 (715813)
01-09-2014 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by scienceishonesty
01-09-2014 11:28 AM


Re: An yet more strawmen.
So run away.
Little kids like little answers. Sorry, I am no longer a little kid.
But if you are interested in "my path to Christianity" then you can start with Message 1 and then go on to Message 1 and then ask questions.
hs writes:
quote:
Just being a Christian does not imply in anyway that my morals come from Jesus.
And here's a classic example of your "enshrouded in mystery" Christianity.
How so? You asserted that my morals came from Jesus. I'm telling you that is not correct. Morals don't come from anyone, they are developed and evolve from society, culture, personal experience, teachings, empathy, understanding and wisdom.
Maybe it's time for you to start questioning what YOU know?
Edited by jar, : may ---> maybe

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jar
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From: Texas!!
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Message 98 of 174 (716485)
01-17-2014 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Straggler
01-17-2014 3:27 PM


since you bring up my name ...
For example jar will readily admit that his beliefs are not rational, logical, consistent, subjct to evidential scrutiny blah blah blah.
... try to be honest about what I admit.
Yes, my beliefs are not reasonable, logical or consistent but what I say is that I know of no way the supernatural could be evidenced and no one has ever been able to show me a way that the supernatural could be evidenced. I don't remember ever says "blah, blah, blah.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 103 of 174 (716824)
01-21-2014 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Modulous
01-21-2014 4:32 PM


Re: honestly?
I specified in my post where he was as usual being dishonest.
I have never said there is no way to evidence my beliefs, I have said that I know of no way that the supernatural could be evidenced and no one has ever shown me a way the supernatural could be evidenced.
If someone presents a way to evidence the supernatural I am willing to consider it.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 107 of 174 (716832)
01-21-2014 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Straggler
01-21-2014 5:06 PM


Re: honestly?
Did you say "For example jar will readily admit that his beliefs are not rational, logical, consistent, subjct to evidential scrutiny blah blah blah."

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jar
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Message 110 of 174 (716835)
01-21-2014 5:32 PM
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01-21-2014 5:25 PM


Re: honestly?
Did you say "Did you say "For example jar will readily admit that his beliefs are not rational, logical, consistent, subjct to evidential scrutiny blah blah blah.""?
Have I not always said that I see no way the supernatural could be evidenced and no one has presented such a method?
All you need to do is present a way to test and identify something was supernatural or even present evidence that something I believe is false or has been refuted.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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From: Texas!!
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Message 113 of 174 (716841)
01-21-2014 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Modulous
01-21-2014 5:29 PM


Re: honestly?
Sorry but that is simply bullshit and carny con job.
It is irrelevant and an attempt to move goal posts and misdirect the audience.
It may well be my beliefs could be evidenced, I just do not know how. But I have said repeatedly that I am open to suggestions.
In fact many of my beliefs have been refuted and in such cases my beliefs have changed.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

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jar
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Message 114 of 174 (716843)
01-21-2014 5:53 PM
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01-21-2014 5:45 PM


Re: honestly?
However there is lots of evidence that shows we have been able to explain things we thought were supernatural and determine they were natural. The list is nearly endless.

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jar
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Message 117 of 174 (716852)
01-21-2014 6:54 PM
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01-21-2014 6:04 PM


Re: honestly?
But I also do not believe if a God of all existed he would remain unevidenced. So which is it? Do you think God can be evidenced? And if so does that mean God is not supernatural?
I don't see anyway anything supernatural can be evidenced. There can be things we believe are supernatural but that is just a belief. It is not evidenced as we think of evidenced in the science world.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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