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Science, Religion, God – Let’s just be honest

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ringo
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Message 48 of 174 (715702)
01-08-2014 12:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 43 by scienceishonesty
01-08-2014 10:50 AM

Re: false dichotomies.
scienceishonesty writes:
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Since Christianity the religion rests on Jesus being of divine origin and that he died on the cross to save us from sin, we can cleanly wipe that off of the table.
That's the No True Christian fallacy.
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You don't get to decide what every single Christian must believe.
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01-16-2014 10:55 AM 		Reply to: Message 86 by GDR
01-15-2014 5:37 PM

Re: which lens to use and when
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Here is how CS Lewis might partially respond to your question.
You should wear a bracelet that says "W.W.C.S.L.D." - What would C.S. Lewis do?
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01-26-2014 1:48 PM 		Reply to: Message 142 by GDR
01-24-2014 3:11 PM

Re: ultimate purpose
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The ultimate purpose is that there will be an eternal world without the suffering and evil that exists in our current entropic universe.
What ever happened to the idea that there can't be good without evil?
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Why didn't God start with the good world in the first place?
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ringo
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01-27-2014 10:53 AM 		Reply to: Message 154 by GDR
01-26-2014 10:22 PM

Re: ultimate purpose
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The only answer that I have come up with is that this renewed heaven and earth will be populated by those who have chosen to love unselfishly and have rejected selfish love.
But in that "perfect world" there would be no scope for unselfish love. What can you do for somebody who needs nothing?
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Why put people through the suffering of an imperfect world just to select the ones who are qualified for a job that doesn't exist?
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