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Dr Adequate
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Message 144 of 1234 (737854)
10-01-2014 2:51 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Dogmafood
09-30-2014 11:01 PM


Re: Evidence for Multiculturalism's Efficacy
No.
And yet actually, that's more than one culture. So "Actually, that's more than one culture" would have been quite a sensible answer.

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Message 158 of 1234 (737890)
10-01-2014 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by New Cat's Eye
09-30-2014 5:28 PM


Re: Evidence for Multiculturalism's Efficacy
Here, from what I've read so far, is an overview of how the French did it:
Would that be the French that banned the burqa, or a different French?
I can't find anything in the paper about "maintaining sub-cultures despite the host culture's effects of dwindling them"?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 159 of 1234 (737891)
10-01-2014 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Dogmafood
10-01-2014 8:15 AM


Re: Evidence for Multiculturalism's Efficacy
Little Italy and China town are the contributions that the previous cultures have made to their new culture. They are examples of how a melting pot does not require the destruction of preexisting cultural practices as long as they do not breach the laws of their new country. These are examples of cultural practices not only surviving but flourishing under a set of laws that apply to everyone and without the mollycoddling of multiculturalism.
Sounds suspiciously multicultural to me. What with the different cultures and all.

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Message 161 of 1234 (737893)
10-01-2014 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by Coyote
10-01-2014 2:40 PM


Re: Found on the web
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia Muslim 40%
Er ... weren't the Bosnian massacres of Muslims rather than by them?
As far as I can find out, Bosnia is currently rather lovely. People go there for the skiing. For some reason Bosnia's 45% Muslim population don't massacre them.
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania Muslim 70%
Yeah, about that. And yet ...
"According to a 2010 survey, religion today plays an important role in the lives of only 39% of Albanians, and Albania is ranked among the least religious countries in the world." --- WP.
"The Constitution of Albania provides for freedom of religion, and the Government has generally respected this right in practice. There have been no reports of societal abuses or discrimination based on religious beliefs or practice. In data collected by sociologists Brian Grim and Roger Finke Albania scored low on Government Regulation of Religion, Social Regulation of Religion, Government Favoritism of Religion and Religious Persecution." --- WP.
No mention of the "unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions" of which you speak, nor the imposition of the jizya.
What is Dr. Peter Hammond a doctor of? I'm gonna guess it's not Looking Stuff Up.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 162 of 1234 (737894)
10-01-2014 4:52 PM
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10-01-2014 4:39 PM


I'll just put in the same effort that you do.
I read the paper.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 167 of 1234 (737920)
10-02-2014 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by Dogmafood
10-02-2014 8:37 AM


Re: Evidence for Multiculturalism's Efficacy
The story revealed that The Law Society -- the body which represents and advises solicitors in England and Wales -- has drawn up guidance for its members on how to draw up wills in accordance with Islamic law. The document can be seen here. As the Telegraph pointed out, High Street solicitors in England and Wales will now be assisted in drawing up documents that refuse women an equal share of inheritance and that discounts the potential inheritance of non-believers entirely.
We cannot let our zeal for tolerance diminish our foundational principal of equality.
But such a principle has never applied in this case. A testator of any religion could always leave more money to son A than to daughter B, and none to son C 'cos of him being an apostate. It's the testator's money. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but nor is it some unheard of novelty that now, for the first time ever, people can make wills that you wouldn't approve of.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 178 of 1234 (737971)
10-02-2014 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 173 by Dogmafood
10-02-2014 12:45 PM


Re: Evidence for Multiculturalism's Efficacy
No the inequality comes from applying different laws to the act of executing a will depending on your religion. [...] As you point out we can already leave money to whomever so what is it that the new law accomplishes?
There is no new law. There are no different laws. As the practice note from the Law Society states:
Some clients are domiciled for succession purposes in England and Wales, but still wish to pass their assets in accordance with Sharia rules for religious reasons. Such clients may prefer a Sharia compliant will, notwithstanding the freedom of disposition provided by English law.
Provided the will is signed in accordance with the requirements set out in the Wills Act 1837, there is nothing to prevent an English domiciled person choosing to dispose of their assets in accordance with Sharia succession rules.
There is also nothing preventing them from disposing of their assets in the manner decreed on the Pillars of Hammurabi. It does not take a new law, or a different law, to allow them to do that. It just takes care in the drafting of the will. The practice note is about how to draft the will so as to make succession sharia-compliant.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 432 of 1234 (739209)
10-21-2014 5:09 PM
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10-21-2014 12:34 PM


A thousand Maasai women who have had the procedure disagree with you about FGM. Why don't you respect their opinions?
Well, let's agree that it's OK as a voluntary procedure performed on an adult ...

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Dr Adequate
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Message 974 of 1234 (746773)
01-09-2015 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 962 by Coyote
12-07-2014 7:28 PM


Re: Stirring the pot
There was a recent scandal that, as much as anything else, illustrates the intellectual emptiness and moral ennui of the modern liberal man [...] It was discovered recently that Muslims in seven London schools were indoctrinating children with Islamic propaganda, ignoring Western culture and refusing to inculcate the British values of the moment. The situation was such that all of one school’s library books were in Arabic and many students couldn’t tell investigators whether they should follow British or Sharia law or which was more important. And one of these schools, mind you, was a state-run Church of England institution that happens to now be upwards of 80 percent Muslim.
Um ... but it would say more about the "intellectual emptiness and moral ennui of the modern liberal man" if this hadn't happened under a conservative government, if charter schools weren't a pet idea of conservatives, and if "the modern liberal man" hadn't said FUCK THAT SHIT when they found out about it. Where this is coming from is a report which said those schools were awful, where the schools were ordered to change or face closure, and everyone, especially "the modern liberal man", agreed wholeheartedly. Do you really suppose that there'd even be such a thing as a "state-run Church of England school" if the left had their way? In your experience, are state subsidies for a state religion the sort of thing that lefties are particularly keen on?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 975 of 1234 (746774)
01-09-2015 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 973 by Jon
01-09-2015 4:14 PM


Re: The Dangers of Multiculturalism
What does that have to do with the information?
Well, I guess we might wonder if his unsupported say-so is in fact "information". If there's anything in his screed that you can reference from reputable sources, why don't you do that? If not, then he himself isn't much of a reference, since he isn't so much a scholar as a habitual liar.

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Message 978 of 1234 (746783)
01-09-2015 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 977 by Faith
01-09-2015 5:21 PM


Re: The Dangers of Multiculturalism
Well, his habit of being, y'know, grossly wrong, means we probably shouldn't take his word for stuff.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1002 of 1234 (747179)
01-12-2015 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 996 by Faith
01-12-2015 2:20 PM


Re: Another statement of the truth that is contra PC
All the violence in the OT is DESCRIPTIVE but in the Koran and other Islamic texts it's PRESCRIPTIVE. But of course that idea isn't PC ...
Or true.
If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the Lord thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
--- Deuteronomy 13:12-15
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Dr Adequate
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Message 1004 of 1234 (747235)
01-13-2015 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1001 by Coyote
01-12-2015 10:29 PM


Re: Multicultural Suicide
Yeah, yeah, multiculturalism means whatever you want it to mean.
Two can play at that game. Opposition to multiculturalism is burning crosses on people's lawns. Any questions?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1009 of 1234 (747250)
01-13-2015 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1005 by Faith
01-13-2015 2:19 PM


Re: Another statement of the truth that is contra PC
No, that's prescriptive. 'Cos of telling people what to do.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1010 of 1234 (747253)
01-13-2015 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1006 by Faith
01-13-2015 2:25 PM


Re: Multicultural Suicide
Coyote is right, "multiculturalism" was the invention of Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School of Social Research, otherwise known as "Critical Theory" ha ha), along with "homophobia" and the constant accusation of "racism" against their chosen enemies, mostly white Europeans, and the devaluation of patriarchal society in the name of hyperfeminist "theory," and the attack on authority (by Adorno), and the promotion of the Sexual Revolution with all its destructive consequences (by Marcuse), all with the aim of destroying Western Civilization. Hey, they've succeeded and they've even got you on their side, along with most of the regulars at EvC.
[citation needed]
Now, do you want me to tell you what Christianity is?

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