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Message 39 of 1234 (737570)
09-27-2014 3:08 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Dr Adequate
09-26-2014 10:35 PM


Re: Multiculturalism
OK, what is the American culture?
Jon Jost describes it in his blogquite well.

...."When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean neither more nor less."

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Message 278 of 1234 (738506)
10-11-2014 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by ringo
10-11-2014 11:51 AM


Culture Club
zombie writes:
You can't separate law from culture either. The law is a product of the overall culture.
Would you say that the culture is a product of collective subjective experiences?

...."When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean neither more nor less."

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Message 416 of 1234 (739171)
10-21-2014 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 411 by jar
10-21-2014 8:41 AM


Obeying The Law When Nobody Is Watching
jar writes:
Law abiding folk will follow reasonable procedure whether or not those procedures carry the force of law. Put up speed limit signs and I would follow them even if there was no penalty for exceeding them.
It depends on what their concept of law and honor are and how deep it carries over into their personal convictions.
Many if not most of we otherwise law abiding citizens will run a red light on a deserted road at 3 am if, after scanning the horizon we see no cars approaching nor any danger at amending that law...if but for a moment. I believe in law but I also believe in common sense and that there are exceptions to every rule. My sense of honor is not as absolute as yours is. You live by the adage that you try to do your best at all times. I live by the adage that I don't really want to follow any law when it seems useless to me and to others. Thou shall not steal. If my family and I were starving and walking down a deserted highway and we came upon a gas station that was closed and we saw food through a window we would knock first and perhaps break the window next. We would, of course, leave a note for the owner and promise to pay for the window later. If you were that owner, would you press charges?

...."When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean neither more nor less."

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Message 514 of 1234 (739464)
10-24-2014 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 513 by jar
10-24-2014 9:29 AM


Questioning Behavior
jar writes:
behavior is not a law.
And yet there are laws against certain behaviors. Is morality relative to individual cultures and...if so...what type of morality do we want here in the melting pot culture?
Perhaps I need to reread this topic so as to ask better questions....do you have any?

Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo
If You Don't Stand For Something You Will Fall For Anything~Malcolm X

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Message 667 of 1234 (741208)
11-10-2014 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 666 by ringo
11-10-2014 12:18 PM


Contrary To Popular Opinion....
ringo writes:
I haven't said anything about "equal" values. I've said that we need to weigh them to find out if they're equal - or better or worse.
And what standards will we use with which to weigh them?

Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo
One of the major purposes of debate is to help you hone your arguments. Yours are pretty bad. They can use all the honing they can get.~Ringo

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Message 1149 of 1234 (748211)
01-23-2015 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1148 by Theodoric
01-23-2015 1:21 PM


Re: Multiculturalists in High Places
Theodoric writes:
Biblical law is creeping over all of the USA. How will we stop it?
We the people or we the atheists? If you mean we the people, a consensus will have to be arrived at through majority vote.
Personally, I am not as disturbed by this development as you are.
Can (or should) a minority be represented by law? In other words, if one guy in town has a wheelchair should every business in town be required to build a ramp at their own expense?

Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo
It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo
If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)

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