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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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The idea is not so much to celebrate other cultures but specifically to weaken the American culture. ... as part of a cunning plot to overthrow Christianity and make Baby Jesus cry. We need one culture. One religion. Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Fhrer ... sorry, got carried away there.
This is shown clearly by the groups which promote multiculturalism. Yeah ... rootless cosmopolitans, I'll bet. They're always up to something.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
OK, what is the American culture? How does "multiculturalism" "weaken the American culture"?
There are two possibilities, neither of them very nice. One is that "the American culture" is a codeword for "white", and the people who denounce "multiculturalism" are a bunch of out-and-out Nazis. But the other alternative is that by culture they actually mean culture. Well, if "culture" is not simply a codeword for color, then there is no conceivable criterion whereby I belong to the same culture as, for example, Pat Robertson, or the cast of Duck Dynasty. Do we have the same religion, wear the same sort of clothes, read the same sort of books, listen to the same sort of music, have the same opinions on any given political or social issue? Do we even follow the same sports? And I suspect that if the people who decry "multiculturalism" were allowed to pick one culture for us all to be, it wouldn't be mine. But if multiculturalism is bad, we should all have the same culture. I shouldn't be me. You shouldn't be you. For starters, you should be a Baptist.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Your comments do nothing to refute what I stated. They do, however, consist of an inquiry into what the fuck it means. What, please, is the American culture? Is it the same as the "real America" Sarah Palin once famously mentioned? Is it white and Christian? Does it not know much about that there science, but likes what that guy said 'bout it being lies from the pit of hell? Does it hate them ho-mo-sekshals? See, when I hear people saying that there's such a thing as the American culture, as practiced by real Americans, I usually think I know what they mean. In your case, I'm not so sure. So please do tell us what the American culture is.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
The American culture is what won WWII and put a man on the moon. And there was I thinking that that was the American nation. What, please, is the American culture? How do we determine if someone belongs to it? This criterion can, surely, not involve being a WWII vet and a rocket scientist.
The issue whether the multiculturalism we're seeing is bad or good is a separate issue--what I have pointed out is what it is and who is behind it. Er, no. Pointing things out doesn't seem to be your thing lately, though you're big into dark hints and cryptic allusions.
The old saying that it is hard to put on a parade when everyone is dancing to a different drummer applies in this case. Coyote, there's a word for societies where everyone marches in step to the beat of the same drummer. That word is not "American".
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Nobody has offered any comments or refutation of that point. That's not true. For example, some people have pointed out that it is willfully obscure nonsense, and invited you to explain what the fuck you think you're talking about. That would fall under "comments". If you want a "refutation" you'll have to bring yourself to actually mean something --- one cannot punch a fog. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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I suppose the political ideology of Multiculturalism goes beyond letting it evolve naturally and, instead, seeks to actually promote that dilution of the host culture. So that's why one in five words I speak is in Spanish and I attend a mosque one Friday in seven. I've been diluted! The bastards!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Jokes are funnier when they aren't non-sequiturs. Since you didn't explain what you meant, I thought someone should do it for you.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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So, to summarize the perils of "multiculturalism": unidentifiable people pose an incomprehensible threat to something that no-one is willing to define, and this is bad for reasons which have yet to be explained.
I don't think conservatives are even trying any more.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Anyone from the pro-Multiculturalism crowd care to offer any evidence that their model works? Well, today no-one broke down my door to check if I was praying to the wrong God, eating Chinese food, or listening to one of the Seventy-Four Forbidden Forms Of Music. I'm gonna count that as a win.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
And how does that relate to Multiculturalism? Well, multiculturalism is what you get when no-one enforces monoculturalism, and this is an instance of it not being enforced.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Things you don't understand aren't necessarily nonsense.
It seems to me that we have only two choices. Either we let people live and think in different ways, or we let the government decide on the One True Culture and enforce it via the Culture Police and the Department Of Book-Burning. If we don't do the latter, we get the former. I prefer the former, especially since no-one seems to be able to think of a cogent argument against it.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Which single culture are China Town and Little Italy an expression of, I forget?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
This is what I meant by misrepresentation. The melting pot does not necessarily destroy it's discrete components nor does it disallow any behaviour that does not conflict with the minimum universal requirements as outlined in the constitution and bill of rights. Is that a way of saying "Actually, that's more than one culture"?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
It is a way of saying that a melting pot approach is not equivalent to the Borg collective. Is that a way of saying "Actually, that's more than one culture"?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I don't see the political policy of multiculturalism as being simply stopping short of full assimilation. Isn't it actually having policies that promote maintaining sub-cultures despite the host culture's effects of dwindling them? Such as? Are there bounty hunters who bring lapsed Amish people back to the farm and take their iphones away?
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