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Theodoric
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Message 972 of 1234 (746764)
01-09-2015 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 971 by Jon
01-09-2015 1:45 PM


Re: The Dangers of Multiculturalism
Niall Ferguson? Are you freaking serious. He is an intellectual fraud and an overt racist.
Maybe you should research people before you quote them.
Niall Ferguson trolls everyone in Newsweek | Salon.com
Just google Niall Ferguson and you will find plenty examples.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 976 of 1234 (746777)
01-09-2015 4:52 PM
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01-09-2015 4:14 PM


Re: The Dangers of Multiculturalism
Why should we trust your cut and paste? You admit he is a questionable character, but expect us to take what he says at face value? He is more than a questionable liar, he is a habitual liar for neo-conservatism.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 980 of 1234 (746787)
01-09-2015 6:44 PM
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01-09-2015 5:51 PM


Re: The Dangers of Multiculturalism
Did you bother to read the article I linked to.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 983 of 1234 (746839)
01-10-2015 10:31 AM
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01-10-2015 10:01 AM


Re: Niall Ferguson
The salon article was full of facts. Read my signature.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 984 of 1234 (746841)
01-10-2015 10:36 AM
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01-10-2015 9:43 AM


Re: The Dangers of Multiculturalism
You presented him. You need to show he is correct. What are his sources? Show he us interpreting them correctly. He has shown himself to be a liar and racist. You show me why this should be any different.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 998 of 1234 (747149)
01-12-2015 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 994 by Faith
01-12-2015 1:36 PM


Re: Another statement of the truth that is contra PC
This guy has a PhD in comparative literature. Why should we take anything he has to say about this subject seriously?
Even better it is published by Front Page, a David Horowitz production. If you want to be taken seriously your banner should probably not say this
Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out.
Horowitz is a laughable hatemonger. Seems Thornton may be too.
The Godfather | Southern Poverty Law Center
Now are you going to post anything that can be taken seriously?
By the way your post is not better than a bare link.
5. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references.
I don't want to read their crap. Tell me what it says.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 1016 of 1234 (747271)
01-13-2015 4:23 PM
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01-13-2015 2:28 PM


Re: Another statement of the truth that is contra PC
I don't expect you to accept my opinions without them bring backed with reason and evidence.
You know this is a piss poor attempt at changing the conversation.
Now why should we accept anything this guy had to say? Do you have nothing to support your trust in him?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 1021 of 1234 (747289)
01-13-2015 6:06 PM
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01-13-2015 5:50 PM


Re: Another statement of the truth that is contra PC
Not ad hominem, I can show evidence they post messages of hate.
Still wondering why you won't tell us why we should listen to anything this guy has to say. Tell us why we should consider him an authority on anything.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 1051 of 1234 (747440)
01-15-2015 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1046 by Tempe 12ft Chicken
01-15-2015 11:37 AM


Re: Catholic terrorism in Ireland
The Famine played into the British policy of subjugating and depopulating Ireland.
I found a google books copy of a a book I have on the subject. The book discusses the desire of Britain to bleed Ireland dry. In a sense it is very similar to the oligarchs desire to bleed the middle class and poor in the United States today. There will always be diminishing returns and sooner or later even the mule is going to bite.
Book

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 1059 of 1234 (747453)
01-15-2015 12:41 PM
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01-15-2015 12:30 PM


Re: Catholic terrorism in Ireland
What provocation warrants genocide against women and children? What provocation did the catholic people of Ireland participate in to deserve the treatment they received at the hands of the British?
Please I want to hear your justification of the treatment of the Irish Catholics at the hands of the Protestants.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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Theodoric
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Message 1061 of 1234 (747457)
01-15-2015 12:49 PM
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01-15-2015 12:33 PM


Re: Catholic terrorism in Ireland
ABE: There is one more thing that I think needs acknowledging. England's Protestant religion has been as good as dead for a century or so by now, so when we are talking about governmental actions against the Irish or Catholic Irish we are not really talking about Protestant actions.
It burns!!!!!!
No True Scotsman Fallacy again?
Century or so? Did you know anything about the history of the British government's policies toward Ireland? 1536 is just a "century or so" ago?
History of Ireland (1536—1691) - Wikipedia
So you want to respin this?

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Theodoric
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Message 1065 of 1234 (747467)
01-15-2015 1:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1063 by Faith
01-15-2015 1:06 PM


Re: Catholic terrorism in Ireland
Ivan Foster was born in Ireland and converted to Protestantism in Ireland.
You do realize that we can research the crap you spout.
He was born into a Protestant family, he did not convert.
Ivan Foster - Wikipedia
He is from Northern Ireland, so he would not consider himself Irish, he would consider himself British.
People of Northern Ireland - Wikipedia
I guess this yahoo is your type of guy though.
quote:
In 2002 he preached a sermon in which he condemned Nigel Dodds who accepted an invitation to attend an ecumenical service at St Anne's Cathedral, Belfast in celebration of Elizabeth II's golden jubilee. Foster accused Dodds of disobeying God's words by attending the service, arguing that it was a wicked ceremony as it was addressed by Cardinal Sen Brady, whom Foster accused of being a priest of the Antichrist
Care to post facts in the future?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 1070 of 1234 (747484)
01-15-2015 1:59 PM
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01-15-2015 1:31 PM


Re: Catholic terrorism in Ireland
Conversion implies changing from one religion to another. If he was not religious before there is no conversion.
But I see that you fundies do consider it a conversion. As you have different definitions to words than most of us, you should be clearer ion the meaning of terms you use.
Also, still waiting for some source stating that he considered himself Irish.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 1073 of 1234 (747488)
01-15-2015 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1072 by Faith
01-15-2015 2:02 PM


Re: Catholic terrorism in Ireland
I do not listen to hateful, disgusting windbags.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 1078 of 1234 (747524)
01-15-2015 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1076 by Faith
01-15-2015 2:19 PM


Re: Catholic terrorism in Ireland
So no defense for the guy you want to use as a reference.
You again resort to insults and attacks. Pitiful.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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