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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Personally, I think mindless cruelty is just as bad as intentional retaliation.
... I don't think the potato famine was intended as retaliation, it was just horrible mindless cruelty....
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
So mindless ignorance of consequences is okay?
As bad, sure, but the point is it wasn't intended as part of the ongoing conflict which has its own historical momentum.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Jon writes:
All of those factors were filtered through a little place called "the British Isles".
What Anglo-Saxon culture? The majority of European people in the U.S. are of German heritage. They speak a language descendant from a long-dead Anglo-Saxon dialect. They practice forms of government founded in Greece and Rome. Their religious beliefs have their origins in the Middle East with a long-haired, hippy Jew.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jon writes:
So are you suggesting civil war or carpet-bagging?
Slavery and segregation were not ended in the south by building more schools.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jon writes:
And I'm asking what "more" is. Holding his head under water?
I'm suggesting that we might need to do more than just bring the horse to water.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
In Message 1109 you said, "Slavery and segregation were not ended in the south by building more schools."
To your mind, what were they ended by? And would the same approach be applicable to todays problems (moving people away from backwardness and extremism)?
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jon writes:
So you're prepared to force people to assimilate? And sticking with the slavery example, I presume you mean armed force?
Force is always applicable.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
NosyNed writes:
I consider myself "usually able bodied" rather than "old" but I always use the ramps at intersections instead of taking the six-inch leap of faith off the curb. The city is routinely putting them in as the old sidewalks are replaced; it can't be that much more expensive. (Another advantage is that they eliminate the need for armour plating to protect the curbs from heavy vehicles taking the corners to sharply.)
Mothers and Fathers with baby carriages can get around, old folks walking have an easier time of it. Old ladies with grocery carts manage better. Everyone is better off. Even the usually able bodied who have an injury benefit.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jon writes:
Your example says nothing about multiculturalism. Admitting people from different cultures does not imply promoting or even tolerating the practice of those cultures over here.
quote:Multiculturalism is U.S. policy.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jon writes:
But what you cited - at least what you quoted from your citation - doesn't promote diversity. It promotes drawing from diverse sources - like drawing water from different wells to mix in one reservoir.
I cited the policy as an example of promoted diversity.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jon writes:
No, it says nothing about preserving the diversity. To use your analogy, it could mean putting the spaghetti and the macaroni and the rotini into the same soup. The individuals can still be distinguished but nothing is being done to promote their diversity.
The Diversity Visa program shows how the U.S. government goes out of its way to ensure a diverse population of immigrants.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Jon writes:
The question is neither whether the sources of the ingredients were diverse nor whether the soup is now diverse. Your claim is that the US government policy was/is to promote diversity and you haven't shown that. They might have anticipated that the diversity would be preserved in part - or they might have hoped that it wouldn't. After all, a hundred years ago there was immigration from diverse sources but the policy was assimilation.
But the soup (i.e., the population) is now diverse.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Jesus wasn't:
The group you obviously have in mind are big on private property and capitalist economy.quote:Talk about relativism: pretending to "worship" somebody you oppose diametrically.
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