Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?

This is exactly what the SCOIUS ruling is going to do, drive Christians out of their jobs, their businesses, etc. etc. etc. This is what we've been saying is going to happen and it is starting to happen, starting with Christian clerks whose faith is contradicted by the ruling. It's going to get worse. Christians who truly believe the Bible is God's word will not act in any way that validates gay marriage. Christians put God above the SCOTUS.The SCOTUS ruling and the Christian casualties as a result of it are the beginning of the attack on Christianity which is only going to get worse and worse in this country. Which I think is what that wager was about with Dr. Adequate. We can wait for more examples but it's already begun.

Laws designed to drive Christians out of their jobs and businesses are a new thing.

Sin is not freedom, it's slavery to the devil.

Are you actually saying that the criminal justice system should turn the other cheek to a criminal?

I'm fine with it being a principle and most often a basis for compensation. I merely point out that it's worded in a way that expresses perfect justice. I'm not against it, it was part of the Old Testament law which the New Testament calls holy. Jesus came for a completely different purpose than to tell states how to run their criminal justice system.

The killing is done because of sin, death is the wages of sin, and sadly, we are all born into sin, nobody is innocent, not even babies. Satan brought sin into the world so he's ultimately responsible for all the killing. As the New Testament says, "he was a murderer from the beginning." To be God's slave is "pleasure forevermore," but to be the slave of sin and the devil is nothing but death and misery.Added: you have no idea what punishment is coming to Hitler. Fear not, he'll get his due.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Satan was originally created a beautiful angel. He decided to challenge God and became evil. He plotted to destroy the human race. It's all on him. I dealt with what you said, you just don't like my opinion.

Yes, that's how the logic goes. Brand new law never before in existence, barely two months old at this point, just happens to challenge the Bible. Just HAPPENS to challenge the Bible. Right. Disenfranchising all Bible believing Christians. Fine with you of course. Fine with the powers that be. It does remind me somewhat of how Hitler dealt with the Jews, taking away their rights by stages, starting with their guns I think, through law. They were in the wrong according to the law so they had to give up all their freedoms. Perfectly understandable, all according to law, right? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Well, we've seen something like this coming for some time. Nevertheless it's a shock that it's come in my lifetime. You expect it but it's hard to believe. I know it's going to get worse too, that's what I had the bet with Dr. A about. Probably in my lifetime though again it will be hard to believe. Last nails in the coffin of Western Civilization, most probably last nails in the coffin of Planet Earth. Some people say how exciting it is to be alive as prophecy unfolds before our eyes. I used to think that would be the case. I don't any more. It's nothing but grief, sadness.

I think the problem was that we get gaga over the fact of fulfilled prophecy and aren't really thinking of the reality. We count the number of earthquakes and go "Wow, that many earthquakes fulfills what Jesus said would happen. That proves the Bible is true" But earthquakes that devastate towns and kill hundreds or thousands we aren't thinking of. "Lots of pestilences" seem to be increasing. But the reality of Ebola for instance is terrifying. "Lots of wars and rumors of wars going on" and that's another fulfillment. "Israel is surrounded by enemies that want her dead." Wow another fulfillment. But nobody can really WANT war to break out when you realize what war is.Jesus also said the end times will be marked by false preachers and prophets. There's no doubt that has been happening for over a century now and now we're so surrounded by false Christs and false teachings, right here at EvC, there's hardly any way to get the truth in edgewise. That's horribly sad. He also said, "Because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall grow cold." How sad THAT is in reality. The hatred people here show toward the Christian faith is terrifically sad.I don't get anywhere near the heavy stuff of Revelation you list before I'm overcome with grief.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

How can it be so hard to get what I'm saying? This is not about other people's sins. This is about Christians being required by the law to act in a way that violates God's commandments to US. What the homosexuals are doing is not the problem, it's what WE are asked to do by this law that is the problem. WE are being asked to treat gay marriage as valid. That violates God's law. We are not being asked to validate Hinduism. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I see no way I'm asked to validate Hinduism. The comparison is bogus.

There is no problem with heathen marriages. They are as valid as any other marriage. The requirement is one man, one woman, period.

No. It hurts to see the world go so bad such an end is necessary, especially formerly Christian nations. It doesn't make me welcome the end, it makes me sad, just as sad about people hating God so much they deserve it as about the end itself. There is and always has been a solution. What's sad is that so many refuse it, mock and scorn it. There is nothing happy about any of this.

I guess you've never heard a good sermon series on the Ten Commandments. Homosexuality is condemned under Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery.