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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Gallup and every other polling organization except Rasmussen agree.
So, of course, you believe the one that always is a rightward outlier because you like it.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Yep. Reality or truth doesn't enter into it. You like Trump, therefore everybody does.
Pathetic.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
we more or less politely let his supporters have their day
You're kidding right? Have you ever listened to right wing radio or TV? Or visited a right-wing web site?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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He wasn't worshiped? Did you miss the worshipful songs sung on his behalf, little children taught to sing "Obama's gonna lead us, Obama's gonna save us" or some such pie-eyed Nazi style adulation? Did you miss Oprah calling him "The One?" I put some of this up on my blog, maybe I can still find it. Even that logo with the Obama "sun" coming up. Actually he plunged us into deep darkness and if Trump can do anything to get us even partly out of this pit of slime we've been drowning in it will be a miracle.
Yes, I missed all thoise, because they were right-wing fantasies that never happened.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
All of that is fake news in the sense of manufactured for the purpose of destroying the man
FYP. None of it is true. It's all been debunked ver and over and over again.
It was Obama and his helpers who did any faking of documents.
And you can't produce any documents established as fake. Just paranoid BS. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Actually I found some still up on You Tube:
Whoops. you're right. I was wrong. Now I remember that stuff. Which I and many others found to be pretty creepy. But they were individuals expressing their feelings. Many people were incredibly excited by our first black president.,
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
can you imagine it Trump had teenage girls do a song and dance routine at one of his rallies with lyrics like
quote: I had forgotten that too. Talk about officially sponsored creepy vs. individuals speaking up!
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Somehow I don't see the similarity between a performance at a rally that celebrates principles, something like cheerleaders, Replacing Jusus' name with Obama's was wrong. Bit it was not an officially sponsored act. The song about hate was officially spnosred. I see a difference.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
What I posted in Message 197 is simply true, there is an incredible epidemic of rape and other crimes in Sweden
Ain't so. Crime and rape is pretty flat in Sweden. There was a small uptick in rape in 2016 compared to 2015, but rapes in 2016 were fewer than in 2014. Last year there were 50% more murders in Orlando/Orange, Florida, than in all of Sweden.
quote: Here are Sweden's crime stats for 2016: analysis:
quote: Your sources are fake news.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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But in my opinion even one made by an honest observer should be enough to suggest to an honest viewer that perhaps the truth isn't being promoted by the usual sources.
Maybe... but you are assuming without evidence that the speaker is honest. I and others have posted evidence essentially proving his dishonesty. There is no spike in crime or rape in Sweden.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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It's obvious. Take it or leave it.
No, it isn't obvious. At least not to all. You know who absolutely adores people who say "it's obvious"? Con-men and liars. They know you're sure you can't be fooled, your intuition tells you the truth. They adore people like that because they are such easy marks. Me, I know darn well I can be fooled. I've been fooled before and I'll be fooled again. But I won't be fooled again often, because I am always worrying that I might be being fooled.
This need to pretend that these things are not happening in Europe is astonishing.
Incredible.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I know I am right. Consider it from that point of view for a change and then offer advice.
Admit you are a fallible mortal who could be wrong. Or are you claiming infallibility? Again? Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Your charts of course miss the whole point, since the big increase in crime began with the current influx of '"refugees", within the last couple of years. The numbers for the last three years are available and have been posted here. If the chart were extended to include 2016 it would look the same. Crime is not up, rapes are not up. No matter how many people post evidence-free rants on YouTube.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I've already posted a lot of evidence on this thread that I trust. If your information agrees with it great, if not I trust what I've posted.
No mention of truth or reality. Telling.
such as a couple of policemen, seem to be bullied into changing their minds, saying they don't want to appear racist,
Of course you have no evidence or reason to believe they were bullied.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Obviously it does leak. The "right wing" seems to have a different set of statistics.'
The right wing has no statistics. Just a few anecdotes.
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