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Author Topic:   Importance of Original Sin
Stile
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Message 1142 of 1198 (841943)
10-24-2018 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1141 by Porkncheese
10-24-2018 1:06 AM


Re: Original sin
Porkncheese writes:
Though I quickly concluded that it is irrational to call someone stupid when they have reached a position on an issue that no one has the total truth to. I mite think someone's view or idea is idiotic but making the person idiotic is lame.
Sounds good.
Everyone has their reasons for thinking/believing what they do on every idea.
Even if they cannot articulate them immediately upon request to do so.
Therefore, it's always a good idea to argue positions, and not people.
Without mathematics to confirm things Biology has adopted this "feelings over facts" approach according to my mate Dave who claims all hypothesis must fit into the darwinian framework which is absurd. Just to cherry pick the data that supports your belief and disregard anything that doesn't.
It would be negligent to do that in engineering
"Everything must fit into the darwinian framework" in Biology just as "everything must fit into the newtonian framework" in engineering.
It's absurd to think otherwise for anything not on the cutting edge.
This isn't because the Biologists refuse to test the darwinian framework... just as engineers don't refuse to test the newtonian framework.
It's because the darwinian framework is tested, confirmed, and re-validated with almost every aspect of biology (and has been for a great many years) that it's not worth the time to consider it "possibly wrong" for 90% of the work in biology.
Just as the newtonian framework is tested, confirmed, and re-validated with almost every aspect of engineering (and has been for a great many years) that it's not worth the time to consider it "possibly wrong" for 90% of the work in engineering.
The framework isn't respected as some sort of "thou shalt not question" idol.
The framework is respected as a tried-and-true, rigorously tested, continuously validated foundation and it's understood that to focus more "testing" on such things that have already been tested is a waste of time and energy that can better be spent expanding the cutting edge.
And, of course, the cutting edge is always allowed to think-outside-the-box... they just have to prove it as well.
That brings me to this "one does not need to be religious in order to be good to others". Reminds me of what a modern psychologist said. "Without religion it's easy to loose morality". First I thought no there is the law to keep us in line but some morals aren't covered by law. How about women. The law let's them do as they please. As a result we have this metoo movement were countless women have no problem in making a false accusations in order to get rich. They say without God and religion your most cherished position becomes your religion. For a lot of women that's feminism. Dangerous. I'd like to hear some thoughts on that view from the people making that point.
1 - I do not need to be religious in order to be good to others. I'm good to others because I want to be good to others.
I don't need the law, I don't need a book, I don't need you or anyone else.
In fact, if anyone does need religion, or the law, or a book, or someone (something?) to "force them" to be good... I don't want anything to do with them, and they scare me - because they are very likely a very evil person.
2 - It's about damn time the #MeToo movement came along.
And anyone who thinks "it's a scary time to be a man" dating in a world like this also scares me.
Should a man be scared to kiss a woman without her permission? Absolutely.
Should a man be scared to grab a woman's arm and pull her towards him without her permission? Absolutely.
Such "worries" for a man would go a long way to making the world a better place for everyone.
No one has the right to treat anyone else as "something they can control" without their permission.
Good men don't worry about such things... because they would never consider doing them in the first place.
Only evil, vile, should-likely-be-in-jail-anyway men think that they should have any sort of protection to use their physical power to force anyone else to do anything else that they do not have permission for in the first place.
Good people already know this, and aren't afraid of the #MeToo movement, and aren't afraid to date in "today's society" because they don't have to change a single thing.
Edited by Stile, : Adding second half of post

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