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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Please provide a citation tying militia groups with white spuremacists, or terrorist activity. I didn't say anything about white spuremacists. There is a whole thread about The Bundys and the Armed Occupation of a National Wildlife Refuge. Those fucking assholes terrorized the town of Burns for months. ABE: And there were plenty of confederate flags seen on vehicles in Burns. Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I already provided citations by death. Do the math yourself.
No need. From your link:
quote: I.e you are wrong.
The government has labelled Antifa a terrorist organization. The fact that you don't know that should concern you.
You might be right. Since the official list is not available to the public, it's difficult to tell for sure.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I suppose that we all could agree that each side has its assholes.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
FBI: Neo-Nazi Militia Trained by US Military in Ukraine Now Training US White Supremacists
How Militias Became the Private Police for White Supremacists - POLITICO Magazine
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
I suppose that we all could agree that each side has its assholes. Yeah, like Trump said, "There are good people on both sides."What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
COUNTERING VIOLENT EXTREMISM: Actions Needed to Define Strategy and Assess Progress of Federal Efforts
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Did far-right extremist violence really spike in 2017?
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
I think he should be classified as Trump-wing. Donald Trump: far right-wingAnd our geese will blot out the sun.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
The number of attacks in 2017 is only slightly higher than the average number of far-right homicides, 7.5, that took place between 1990 and 2016. None of the statistics I've seen presented here (in this thread) have addressed the number of threats of violence, beatings and intimidating behavior. Reports of non-lethal attacks against minorities since Trump started spewing seem to be up at schools and colleges across the country as reported in the news. I don't have any source other than my own impressions and also what I hear from friends that are minorities.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
Attempted murder isn't "better" than murder. It just means you're no good at it. Reports of non-lethal attacks against minorities since Trump started spewing seem to be up at schools and colleges across the country as reported in the news.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Phat writes: He is right though...he is a left-wing Canadian. Perhaps a question to ask is if he were a right-wing Canadian would he still be part of the problem rather than the solution? I've been hanging out here quite a few years, and ringo is one who is articulate and opinionated in his responses to our posts. He gets under my skin occasionally but I'm glad he is around I don't hate ringo. I debated with him for thousands of posts. I should have said, the way you think is what is wrong with America.
Phat writes: I'm guessing you are a moderate leaning towards conservative values...but are moderate enough to consider all ideologies as equally valid (or useless). Bingo, but you knew that already. Raised democrat/progressive, turned Conservative Independent.
Phat writes: Would you say that your worldview has been influenced by the church or would you argue that you are balanced enough in life to associate with a broader spectrum of people than just believers? Just the opposite. The church does not dictate my worldview. More specifically, since church is man, and God is God, God does not dictate my world view. My worldview dictates my God. I do not call people believers or non-believers. I treat them all the same since we do not know who goes to heaven. Our job is only to love. The atheists here in this forum helped me form my faith. God sees that. I never bothered to calculate how many left and right wingers there are in the world. Why are we leaving people in the middle out? What difference does it make? If every single person believed in God, we would still have no proof He exists. Opinions are like assholes. Yep I still fly planes. More into freestyle FPV drones. I don't miss this place, but I miss people like you.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
People who associate Confederate flags and militias with all that are ignorant idiots. No better than prejudice bigots.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
You picked the info from the article that backed up your thoughts only. If you minus the Oklahoma City bombing, the numbers are much closer. If you read further, the article cites that left wing numbers are higher than right wing numbers in the last 2 years.
But none of that has anything to do with my point really. People need to stop focusing on ideologys, and stop character assasinating each other. When people have these debates they twist the numbers and present them in a favorable way to try and prove their point. All I see is hypocrisy and false narratives. The US is like a bad "B" movie to me, and everyone is so dumbed down and incapable of rational thought that they end up fighting each other. Families are being split up over this bullshit that the media is peddling to us. It needs to stop.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
We saw multiple groups in Burns that claimed to be in various militias and some were flying actual Confederate flags as well as having large Confederate flag stickers on their vehicles.
I guess you are calling me a liar?What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
The government has labelled Antifa a terrorist organization. The fact that you don't know that should concern you. You might be right. Since the official list is not available to the public, it's difficult to tell for sure. As I understand it, the politics of Antifa are to be anti-far right wing. That does not make them left wing/liberal. Maybe a lot of Antifa is made up of non-lunatic fringe conservatives? MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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