|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
Thread ▼ Details |
|
|
Author | Topic: Your Most Controversial Opinions! | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
What I think is irrelevant
What you think is irrelevant What Jesus thinks... now that's controversial! Edited by scottness, : No reason given.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Don't let your pink unicorn fettish get in the way of your other brain.
Edited by scottness, : No reason given.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
I had to edit my post just for that!
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
There were a lot of things legal in Nazi Germany. I guess we had no authority to impose our standards on them since they were not responsible?
Slavery was once legal... Witches were once legally executed... Comprende?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
You're saying that dancing for money at the client's behest is the same as shoveling Jews into gas chambers? No, you did! Your standard is whether the act is legal. the implication, is that if any given behavior is accepted by concensus in a society, then it is not wrong. If you want to bring in some other standard be my guest, but you'll have to restate your argument to 2twice baked. if we pass a law saying that lying is legal, would it then be moral, or would we be lying to ourselves?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Is it your contention that these acts are morally wrong? Yes, all of the above.
If so, what's wrong about them? I don't suppose I have to explain what's wrong with rape... as for the other, we would need to get into a philosophical dialog that gets very intense.
Do you believe the proper punishment for those acts is to be raped? Since that's what we're talking about. No! And i honestly had not read the whole thread so I was unaware of that.... technicality? I said: if we pass a law saying that lying is legal, would it then be moral, or would we be lying to ourselves? To which you replied: In addition to being a fairly boring but of sophistry, that isn't even remotely on-topic. I was just pointing out that everybody does it.
The question is - if a woman performs a legal act of dancing, is the proper punishment for that supposed to be rape? No! I'm not defending that. But I am curious why you find rape immoral?
What responsibilities does the dancer incur for dancing? 2baked refuses to say. Can you answer in his stead? I'll try... It is an illusion. It is a tease. So part of the responsibility incurred, is that the observer is often going to believe the illusion (that she wants to have sex with him) and she puts herself into the position of being seen as a sexual object without the other values that accompany sexuality. She devalues herslf in others eyes. And the only reason that she would not consent, is because of those responsibilities and emotional intimacy; trust, privacy, exclusivity etc that we expect are not provided in such a situation. In other words, it reduces that which is meant to be a comprehensive relationship on the deepest biological, emotional, and spiritual level, and reduces it to mere animal passions. Intimacy is lost both for her and the observer. And therefore, the real and sacred aspect that brings true enjoyment of sexuality is lost. The ultimate pleasure in anything, is the sacred. It is legitimate, right, with no regret in the conscious, and therefore satisfying, so that there is no need for weirder and weirder concoctions of stimuli needed to produce a merely natural response. I think it was Malcomb muggeridge speaking of 20th century man who said among other things that we, '...having educated ourselves into imbecility, created impotence out of our own erotomania... become extinct.' Edited by scottness, : No reason given. Edited by scottness, : context
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
So, unless everybody's having sex in exactly the way that you proscribe, they're committing a moral infraction on the level of the Nazi holocaust? Don't get all disjointed Justin, I didn't make a moral equivolent in terms of degree, only in kind. You call stripping 'above board' because it is legal. But we don't get to decide what legal is. That is imposing morality on our fellow citizens. We do it though, and with your blessing. Neither you, nor I, have the power to prescibe sexuality in terms of practice. If we assume that power for ourselves, then we have declared ourself to be equal with God in that particular area. Can you handle the knowledge of good and evil? Can a stripper? Or the man who rapes her? Appearently not!
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
I wonder, scottness, can you ever bring yourself to talk in a linear fashion or must you always talk in cryptic almost nonsensical evangelistic phrases? Would it be more convenient for you to continue believing what it is you believe if I did? I try my best to speak very clearly. Linear thinking is one dimensional. If you want to understand reality, you must broaden your thinking. Don't be so black and white! (eg. stop condemning Bush you fascist ). But if you want to enjoy your life in a linear fashion, then you might as well say, ignorance is bliss.' I think repentance is far more logical in light of certain observations. But somehow, that is a controversial opinion in our culture's postmodern madness. Sweet dreams!
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Since when did I imply that we should think in a linear fashion? You said:I wonder, scottness, can you ever bring yourself to talk in a linear fashion...? I thought that was a clear implication that that was the way you think. And your condemnation of Bush verifies the hypothesis, so I threw that in as well. I used to think the same way Taz... So I understand the terms and inferences.
Do you always talk in such cryptic phrases? I think I read somewhere on here that some people talk like fortune cookies. Are you one of those that prefer to communicate like a fortune cookie? Was his name Rob? Who was it that said that to me? I can't remember.... I think the language is clear, though it is complex in texture. What do you mean by cryptic? I mean no offense, only caution... try reading this: John 8:43 - Why is my language not clear to you? Because you a...
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5879 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Does any of that address my argument? I don't see where. I think so, Crash. But I already covered it, so never mind.
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024