I did read the thread, contrary to other's statements.
I understand how you read it, I don't agree on the reading. I saw Archer's point as nothing more than an addition to what you posted.
In a poor analogy it would be like someone stating that cats are furry and someone else stating that dogs are furry too. The addition does not take away from the original statement but carries on from it. Now if someone were to think that this means that the second statement was saying that cats weren't furry or that cats furriness should be ignored because dogs are furry also, then I think that is a misrepresentation.
It just seems to me (opinion) that some are quick to see opposition where there is none.
Now, to keep to the intent of this thread I will state my most controversial opinion.
Keep in mind that this comes from someone who considers herself a feminist and a liberal.
I'll state the disclaimer first in case some choose to not read past the opinion -
- I do NOT think that women or men who are raped or attacked in any way "deserve what they get."
- I do NOT think that the person who is attacked is totally responsible IF AT ALL.
- I do NOT think that all situations are equal and should be treated as such.
- I DO think that everyone deserves to be safe and free from fear.
I "THINK" that people that put themselves in a dangerous situation have to share at least some of the responsibility for what happens. I understand that at times there is no choice as to the situations that people find themselves in.
I fully agree that in a perfect world anyone would be able to feel free from fear of attack, whether physical or psychological. I also know that we do NOT live in this perfect world and have to deal with issues in the real world.
In the real world there are areas that are unsafe and situations that leave us vulnerable. If one were to, unnecessarily, place themselves in this unsafe area or situation, then they bear, at least, a portion of the responsibility for what happens.