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Author Topic:   Fossil Sorting in the Great Flood Part 2
edge
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Message 55 of 411 (119136)
06-27-2004 1:17 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by simple
06-27-2004 12:56 AM


Re: ribbing granny
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So then, in the little we dug up so far, then, it seems the pattern would be that the dinos (you say are marine) hung together, and tended to get buried and fossilized together. As did the marine mammals. Is this supposed to be real shocking or something?
Then you will have to explain to us why we find marine mammals with marine fish and shellfish, etc. in the same environment today but not in the past...
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I had a funny little thought.
Congratulations. However, most of your thoughts seem kind of funny. The question is can you back them up?
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If the vibes were going out through the world ...
'Vibes?' Please explain the biblical reference to 'vibes'.
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...that the creator had to destoy dry land life (and a good portion of the sea life that got caught in it's phases, mudslides, etc) maybe instinct kicked in, and creatures had an urge to be together!!!!
That explains everything: you are a sixties throwback. How about a little chorus of Kum-Bah-Yah?
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This would tend to give us a pettern of these creatures buried together, no?
All you need is love, er, I mean evidence!
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Instinct is a wonderful and powerful thing! Creatures come equipped with amazing complicated programs that kick in as needed. Certainly didn't evolve with such a nice program package included! Wonderful!
Interesting assertion. What is your supporting evidence?
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By the way, granny bacteria believers, how is it that woman was supposedly made? Did man have to wait millions of years, using his hand for more than plowing? Or was it a woman granny provided us with first, and she had a virgin birth?
Is this another funny thought of yours? It certainly has no grounds in evolution. No one here ever said that woman 'was made,' except for you, that is. Please clarify.

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edge
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Message 67 of 411 (119281)
06-27-2004 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by simple
06-27-2004 1:37 AM


Re: ribbing granny
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A: Woman is here then, unmade if you wish. How did man and woman (says evo) come to be appearing together-at the same time? I assume you'd have to say the both evolved at the same time.
Okay, then why did you ask?
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e: Then you will have to explain to us why we find marine mammals with marine fish and shellfish, etc. in the same environment today but not in the past...
A: Do you find many fossilized?
Your failure to answer my question is noted.
To answer yours: I don't know specifics of this case, but I know that other biomes overlap in the fossil record.
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e: The question is can you back them up?
A: Instinct is not theory, we know about this. It works 4 million ways from sunday. You can provide no reason it was not at play in the deluge.
This was simply a rhetorical question. Can you back up any of your statements?
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e: 'Vibes?' Please explain the biblical reference to 'vibes'.
A: Who said the word came from the bible? Why are you concerned with a book who's account of the flood echoed in Jesus own mouth you utterly reject?
Another question avoided. You were talking about God's actions sending out 'vibes'. I thought perhaps you had some evidence for this. Or is this just another 'funny little thought of yours?'
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e: All you need is love
A: Amen, God is love.
But science requires evidence...
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e: What is your supporting evidence?
A: Evidence for instincts in animal world? Come on now, get serious, you aren't really doubting that, unless you are retarded.
No. What is your evidence (or reasoning) that instincts did not evolve, since it is so clear, that is?

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edge
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Message 255 of 411 (123655)
07-10-2004 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by Robert Byers
07-10-2004 3:56 PM


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Finally once again it must be insisted geology that deals with past events is a subject of history and not science.
And, once again, I refer to my handy desk dictionary to see how science is defined. And, lo, it appears that you have, once again, made up a definition of your own.
1. A branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws.
2. Systematic knowledge of the physical or material world.
3. Systematized knowledge of any kind.
4. Any skill that reflects a precise application of facts or principles.
Please show where geology fails all of these definitions.

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edge
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Posts: 4696
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Message 402 of 411 (137751)
08-28-2004 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 400 by Robert Byers
08-28-2004 4:40 PM


Re: Drift rates
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Why evidence? You asked how something could be and I answered?
No. You made assertions. You have not provided evidence to support them. In fact, your scenarios simply do not make sense. Why should one sediment deposited by some 'fluid pressure' have different fossils from another deposit having the same 'fluid pressure.' Really, it sounds like you are just making this up as you go.
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You guys are the ones who claim to be the only authority on these matters.
Well, perhaps relatively. But if we are, why do you automatically reject what we say?
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RATHER
You show the evidence that led you to your conclusions.
There are thousands and thousands of mainstream references on each topic. It is not our job to educate you. We can only direct you to your nearest college campus which has many resources you can take advantage of.
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You just relate data and insist on one interpretation.
No. We insist on an interpretation that makes sense.
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We,like Sherlocke Holmes,say aha there is another interpretation. But regardless you don't show evidence only data/interpretation.
Ummm, isn't it possible that data is evidence? Perhaps if you have a very specific question we could address it.
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I don't follow why ice dams are a problem for us. I'm sure it's the best news yet in geology.
News? Whatever are you talking about?

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edge
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Message 408 of 411 (140555)
09-06-2004 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 406 by Robert Byers
09-04-2004 2:40 PM


Re: What are you doing then?
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BUT
I don't attempt to prove my creationist thoughts. They are only a answer to when its required to have an alternative.
Do you have ANY idea how much it would help your position to support your viewpoint with some evidence? If nothing else, you might gain some credibililty.
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Like in a army I have a strict object and weapon. Yes I'm firing but the weapons I use are selective.
Well, then, there's your problem. You are at war, when the rest of us are having a science discussion.

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