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Author Topic:   Fossil Sorting in the Great Flood Part 2
jar
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Message 22 of 411 (118836)
06-25-2004 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by simple
06-25-2004 7:50 PM


Re: post 14
But you can not zero in. You are asserting that there was a great, world-wide flood. So that flood had to be everywhere and must explain all of the evidence.

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Message 51 of 411 (119124)
06-27-2004 12:10 AM
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06-27-2004 12:03 AM


Well, let's harken back to where we were in the earlier thread.
If I understand you, the Flood destroyed all of the Land Life but not the Marine life? Is that correct?

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Message 53 of 411 (119131)
06-27-2004 12:32 AM
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06-27-2004 12:20 AM


Re: Well, let's harken back to where we were in the earlier thread.
Ok.
Then the record left that you and I were discussing regarding the Marine Species must be due to something other than the alleged great wetting that never happened.
And there we find that the layers are as predicted by the TOE. We find marine dinosaurs with marine dinosuars but we never find marine mammals in the same layers. Never. Not once. Never, Nyet, No How, No Way.
So despite all your dreams of the great wetting that never happened, the records show the same thing whether we are looking at marine mammals, land mammals, marine dinosuars, land dinosuars.
If you want to continue believing in the fiction of the flood, then fine. It hurts no one but you.

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jar
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Message 56 of 411 (119138)
06-27-2004 1:23 AM
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06-27-2004 1:17 AM


Careful there
That explains everything: you are a sixties throwback.
Some of us aren't sixities throwbacks. A few of us were actually there on that June 16, 17 & 18th.

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Message 76 of 411 (119329)
06-27-2004 10:35 PM
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06-27-2004 10:22 PM


Re: ribbing granny
You may be missing the point. What we do find are very distinct layers. Within those layers we find very specific fossils. We do not find fossils of marine mammals in the layers where we find marine dinosaurs. Never. Nyet. Nada. Nowhere.
And we never find marine dinosaurs in the layers with marine mammals. Never. Nyet. Nada. Nowhere.
we never find recent critters with the older fossils. Never. Nyet. Nada. Nowhere.
I don't think you really understand just how persuasive the fossil record is. Even though you don't believe in it right now, you really should take about two weeks and really look at the evidence that is out there. You've done your homework over at ICR and AIG and the other Creationist sites. Now look at the record that GOD left. Put aside the Creo Sites and go to the source. I think you'll find that GOD hasn't been lying to you. The info is there and it is compelling.

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Message 81 of 411 (119337)
06-27-2004 11:20 PM
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06-27-2004 11:12 PM


Re: ribbing granny
Not at all sure what point you are trying to make. But so far nothing you've posted has anything to do with what I've said.
Can you try to show what relations you see between your post and what I have said?

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Message 84 of 411 (119342)
06-27-2004 11:34 PM
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06-27-2004 11:30 PM


Re: ribbing granny
I said marine mammals and marine dinosaurs.

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Message 111 of 411 (120366)
06-30-2004 1:28 PM
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06-30-2004 1:25 PM


Re: Rundle
Clavinist.

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Message 139 of 411 (121386)
07-02-2004 11:55 PM
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07-02-2004 11:39 PM


Re: our grass their grass
For those holding court who are bible believers, God's Own recorded account is entered as evidence! Here, we have the difference with evo science, where He is always ruled out as inadmissable!
Agreed, and HIS own record is in the rocks, not in the Bible. It is the fossil record, geology and the Universe. And the record that GOD left says the Genesis is wrong.

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Message 145 of 411 (121410)
07-03-2004 12:17 AM
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07-03-2004 12:11 AM


Re: our grass their grass
The record he left us can be read without the Bible. It can be read by Buddhist or Christian, Jew or Hindu, Daoist or Muslim.
The Bible is a Map, not the Territory.

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Message 168 of 411 (122125)
07-05-2004 12:37 PM
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07-05-2004 7:04 AM


Finally, arkathon makes his first reasonable statement.
Thing is, at the rate mainstream science is going, by the time they got fairly accurate concerning creation time, it would be billions of years!
Bravo. Correct. So far it has been about 4.5 Billion years.
But please try to stay on the subject in one of your threads.
In this thread we are discussing fossil sorting and you have not yet shown ANY evidence that the record could have come from a world-wide flood.
If you have any evidence, now would be a good time to list one such item.

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Message 172 of 411 (122140)
07-05-2004 1:51 PM
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07-05-2004 1:42 PM


Re: granny or the flood
No, you have not introduced any evidence. You have made wild and unfounded assertions.
So once again, if you have any evidence, now is the time to present it.
The ONLY issue here is Fossil sorting.
You have show no mechanism for a flood sorting fossils.
So far you have scored zero point in sorting.

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Message 177 of 411 (122172)
07-05-2004 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by Robert Byers
07-05-2004 3:46 PM


Robert Byers writes:
The famous cretaceous/teritary (Spelling uge) line in the geological columne is the flood line.
and...
There are no rock creation before the flood except the instant creation by God in a day (probably).
I just want to understand what it is you are saying. Is the Upper or lower Boundary of the Cretaceouos layer what you are calling the flood event? Or is the whole Cretaceous layer the flood event?
So prior to the flood, all we should see is the layer laid down at the moment (likely a one day event) of Creation?

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jar
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Message 179 of 411 (122181)
07-05-2004 4:38 PM
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07-05-2004 4:30 PM


I'm not sure any of those questions are
issues we need to deal with right now. I just want to make sure that I understand what he is saying.

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Message 183 of 411 (122220)
07-05-2004 7:35 PM
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07-05-2004 6:18 PM


Re: iridium redux
Could be. It will be interesting to see just what he does mean. Only he can tell us.

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