EvC Forum: Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.

Yet there are Hitler quotes that indicate he hated Christianity. So it's a very confusing picture. Anyhow, there always exists the distinct possibility that he used pro-Christian rhetoric to appeal to a Christiian audience. Oldest trick in the book.

Perhaps you should hedge your bets, and only pray for his soul every other day.

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Message 992 of 1000 (808668)
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Re: Hitler's soul... was racist

Hitler was a racist and tried to literally and manually inbred 'superiority' into the human race, and xterminate all other humans.

This easily supported by the theory of evolution which states that branching brings on superior or more viable species from the original species or KIND.

SEE Evolution is a Racist Doctrine.

Do note, that this thread title should have been
Aethists/Evolutionists can NOT rationally explain Morals... for remember this is an evolution board and not an atheist board, even though atheistic comments abound.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 993 of 1000 (808683)
05-12-2017 8:54 AM

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Re: Evolutionists can not explain morals

To illustrate this point, if there were no religions, a great many people would still consider homosexuality to be immoral; likewise, many people would still consider abortion immoral.

We know that. The question is: so what? What is your point?

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Message 994 of 1000 (808690)
05-12-2017 9:09 AM

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Re: Evolutionists can not explain morals

Hi Chiroptera, meaning bat.....

Religions like evolution do destroy moral fiber, with their luck and chance philosphy... especially when they declare that they have no responsibility for what they write and discover and implement and force into childrens minds.

Yes, agreed the religion's of man are basically about self and selfishness and the appearnace of holiness, and about them appearing to be more righteous than others. Its about racism, and hoping and praying their superiority gets appreciated from those below them. Religion is a curse, which is why the religionists killed Jesus... why because Jesus was against religionists and their vile morality.

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Message 995 of 1000 (808695)
05-12-2017 9:30 AM

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Re: Evolutionists can not explain morals

Dredge writes:

To illustrate this point, if there were no religions, a great many people would still consider homosexuality to be immoral; likewise, many people would still consider abortion immoral.

Which of course is fine. No one cares whether you consider something immoral. You are perfectly free to feel that way.

What people object to is you trying to impose the concept of legality rather than morality.

Thank God legality and morality are not synonyms.

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Message 996 of 1000 (808722)
05-12-2017 11:10 AM

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Re: Evolutionists can not explain morals

As I pointed out in an earlier post, if no Gods or gods exist, some of the morality invented by religions is as valid as any non-religious morality, because it is still the morality of human beings.

Why? Why can't one human based morality be superior to another?

To illustrate this point, if there were no religions, a great many people would still consider homosexuality to be immoral; likewise, many people would still consider abortion immoral.

And? For quite a while now there has been a humanistic argument for homosexuals having equal rights. In fact, philosophers have been basing human rights on humanistic and areligious arguments for quite a while now.

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Message 997 of 1000 (808738)
05-12-2017 12:10 PM

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Dredge writes:

Hitler was a politician - and not he most honest one in history. You can't believe everything he said.

If he talked about Christianity to appeal to Christians, then he probably also talked about evolution to appeal to evolutionists. So if you want to reject that he was a "True Christian", in all honesty you also have to let go of the claim that he was a "True Evolutionist".

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Message 998 of 1000 (808740)
05-12-2017 1:01 PM

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Re: Evolutionists can not explain morals

Thanks, Davidjay.

I don't think that gets to the point Dredge is trying to make. But who knows? I thought I got his point, but he's been pretty much ignored my responses. He's pretty reticent about explaining himself clearly.

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